I love versus, but when you get the tank, and they just hide under the stairs from him, totally invulnerable, well fuck that, and them.
I dunno why Bal and Seig got so pissed about that.
Bal, the thing about hiding under the stairs is that to do it, you have to hide under the stairs and the thing about hiding under the stairs is that you are under the stairs and not getting any closer to the safe room.
Yeah, the tank can't get you (which I'm not actually sure of because I think you can still throw rocks down there that will hit) but so what, you can still just stand at the top of the stairs with the survivors in sight, not losing any tank control since you can still see the survivors and not losing any health since they can't shoot you through the stairs.
If I'm wrong and they can shoot up through the stairs and hit you, then you can be damned sure that tank rocks will go clean through the same holes since they have a tendancy to not really clip on anything but straight up walls. You just have to be patient and smart enough to not run into the opposing team's out-stretched fist.
Of course all of this doesn't even mention the very valid point that Kazz brought up that both teams play the same level with the same tank spawn points, so both teams can do the same thing thus really removing any unfair aspect from the equation.
Malvado put it well when he told me, "
It's really no different than finding a really good spot for a turret in TF2. It doesn't single handedly win you the game unless the other team is too impatient to think about how to logically counter it. It's like when TF2 first came out, people just ran around like idiots but after some time had gone by, people refined their playing styles."
I can't say I've yet to defeat it, but I think even the closet scam is counterable if you can just get coordinated with your fellow infected the same way you have to when you're the ones with the guns. There's enough waves of hordes that you can get a boomer, smoker, and two hunters up at the same time and really try to blind and separate the bastards in a consolidated manner that might get the job done if you can pull it off.
But then as mentioned before, they gotta come out of the closet some time. Even George Takei did finally and he was really in there.