Topic: LGBT (Read 60229 times)

Norondor · « **Reply #300 on:** September 25, 2009, 12:36:37 PM »

That's actually not the question, unless you are a shithead.

Brentai · « **Reply #301 on:** September 25, 2009, 12:41:17 PM »

Just because shitheads are more likely to ask it does not make it an invalid question.

Norondor · « **Reply #302 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:10:02 PM »

It does make it more likely to be a good idea to ignore it and the people asking it.

That is to say, homosexuality has, to most reasonable people's satisfaction, been shown not to be a matter of choice. Ergo if kids are claiming to be gay earlier in life, the debate, if you are not a shithead who thinks that people are corrupted into the "gay lifestyle," is if they are being honest. If you are really, seriously worried that children might by lying about something to get attention, you should probably go lie down for a while.

JDigital · « **Reply #303 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:34:05 PM »

I said none of those things. I'm not applying any moral judgement here.

I'm asking if a person's sexuality can be influenced by the culture they grow up in.

Norondor · « **Reply #304 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:38:06 PM »

Oh, well, i didn't mean to >imply that you were saying that. It's just the reaction i expect the moral guardians to inflict on everyone.

Shinra · « **Reply #305 on:** September 25, 2009, 02:53:40 PM »

Quote from: JDigital

The question is whether acceptance of gay culture is encouraging young people to decide they're gay, or just encouraging those who are to be more vocal about it.

The problem JD is that you worded this very poorly.

"Decide to be gay" vs "turn out that way" - there may be a subconcious decision, but decision implies the actual act of choice.

Having said that, I do agree that it's a valid question - nature vs nurture, etc. It's hard to give a definitive answer to. A lot of things during childhood are said to have an effect on how you turn out as an adult - from the people you were raised around to the attidues of your parents to the traumas you experienced growing up. Hence why those molested as children often end up child molestors and why a girl whose dad was a drunk who slapped her around is more likely to end up marrying a drunk who slaps her around. On the positive end, this might also be why a kid with a single mom might be attracted to an independant woman.

Now someone might interpret this more as me saying "gays are going to raise gays"; this isn't what I'm saying. But I would say that somewhere there, in childhood, there is a switch and I think at some point that switch gets flipped. What flips the switch is open to debate. I don't think anyone's born gay anymore than anyone is born liking bubble butts, redheads or legs.

yyler · « **Reply #306 on:** September 25, 2009, 06:11:30 PM »

I have to remember to never actually bring this up again

Thad · « **Reply #307 on:** September 26, 2009, 11:45:45 PM »

Quote from: Yoji on September 14, 2009, 09:15:19 PM

I've heard some wacky reasons to keep them gosh darned gheys out of the military, but Roman rape tales? News to me and, apparently, to everyone else present.

Not me! I saw it in Sandman!

Quote from: Catloaf on September 21, 2009, 05:53:34 PM

So... "Anyone married in a state where the marriage is valid, is married in the eyes of the federal government." And probably also in all other states in the union, but that I'm not sure about.

It reads to me like it's just federal -- filing for income tax and such. Can't expect the Democrats to be TOO progressive, now.

I had a friend pull the old "states' rights" argument on me back in college and say the federal government shouldn't force a state to recognize another state's marriage.

I pointedly responded that my aunt and uncle's interracial marriage would have been illegal in a whole lot of states 50 years ago.

(oh hi Sharkey.)

Quote from: Yoji on September 21, 2009, 09:35:37 PM

So lemme get it strai- er, am I getting this right? When you look at porn, your sexual drive "turns inwards." Which means you involve yourself in whatever fantasy the porn is facilitating. Since you involve yourself, and therefore your own same sex, that makes you gay regardless of the pornographic material or involved fantasy.

Jon Stewart said pretty much this. Good show.

Quote from: yyler on September 25, 2009, 06:11:30 PM

I have to remember to never actually bring this up again

No, see, Yyler, this is an example of you starting a GOOD, CONSTRUCTIVE tangent in a conversation. That is the sort of thing you SHOULD be doing.

...anyway. As far as kids coming out in early puberty, that's good to hear; it's a tough fight right now but in the end progress always wins. I think a big part of it is an increase in positive gay role models in popular culture -- I'm not kidding when I say I think JK Rowling is going to have a real impact here. (I'm kinda of two minds on the whole "Oh, by the way, Dumbledore's gay" thing -- on the one hand, it kinda seems a copout that it's never actually stated in the books; he doesn't strike me as the type to be closeted and at any rate his more-than-friends affections for Grindelwald should have at least been suggested by Skeeter, but on the other hand the fact that it's just an afterthought, something that makes no difference to who he is as a character any more than Neville eventually marrying Hannah Abbott, serves to emphasize how trivial a distinction it really is in the scheme of things. Seems to me that the Brits are way ahead of us on this; I can think of several eps of Doctor Who that introduced LGBT characters and didn't make a big deal out of their sexuality. Course, the head writer for the past 4 seasons was the Queer as Folk guy, so that's to be expected.)

Niku · « **Reply #308 on:** September 30, 2009, 08:54:05 AM »

http://kotaku.com/5370694/neir-screenshot-shows-more-flesh-than-it-should

Friday · « **Reply #309 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:51:28 AM »

no, you see, it shows a penis, but it's a female penis, so it gets around japan's dick censorship laws

Friday · « **Reply #310 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:52:13 AM »

but seriously why do i live in a world/country that has the global mental maturity of a 10 year old

Catloaf · « **Reply #311 on:** September 30, 2009, 10:39:42 AM »

Because most adults nowadays were born during the cold war era, where thoughts beyond the world ending in thermonuclear death was frowned upon, then those just slightly younger than them learned to act similarly and then everyone else actually is as physically immature as they're minds are...?

Brentai · « **Reply #312 on:** September 30, 2009, 10:43:50 AM »

That's an areola? It looks more like an unfortunate shadow on a nipple-less character model.

McDohl · « **Reply #313 on:** September 30, 2009, 10:55:32 AM »

Quote from: Brentai on September 30, 2009, 10:43:50 AM

nipple-less

Please put it on your bust.

Mongrel · « **Reply #314 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:00:22 AM »

I wish more folks would run around butt naked. People's rabid fear of bare human skin has always amused me to no end.

I mean, it's a tragic sort of amusement, but no less funny for being so.

McDohl · « **Reply #315 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:06:21 AM »

We wear clothes today because two people, way back in the day, wanted to be as(s) gods.

God got all huffy and kicked Adam and Eve out of Eden because he saw that they were wearing clothes they made out of fig leaves. Which leaves one to wonder just why did God didn't just tell them, "Hey, cover your naughty bits."

...

CLOTHES ARE AN INVENTION OF SIN.

WHO WANTS TO START A NEW RELIGION WITH ME?!

Mongrel · « **Reply #316 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:23:45 AM »

MCE is already Pope, so I guess we're set!

The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji · « **Reply #317 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:43:11 AM »

...if that is a nipple/areola, it's gotta be one of the tiniest I've seen. You have to zoom in to get a good look!

And isn't that character a hermaphrodite? I thought that'd cause more outrage than anything else. By this point I've concluded that people must like being outraged, and the pettier the subject the better.

Quote from: Mongrel on September 30, 2009, 11:23:45 AM

MCE is already Pope, so I guess we're set!

You mean the one where the only article of clothing allowed is a black choker collar?

...

Büge · « **Reply #318 on:** September 30, 2009, 01:08:32 PM »

I don't think they added nipple texture to the model. That's a shadow.

Shinra · « **Reply #319 on:** September 30, 2009, 01:33:21 PM »

Quote from: Beta Ray Büge on September 30, 2009, 01:08:32 PM

I don't think they added nipple texture to the model. That's a shadow.

Yeah, looks like a shadow to me.

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