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[Guild]

Pointing out logical errors is not trolling.

[Thad]

And vice-versa.

[Arc]

Topic title altered. :)

The fur trade is disgusting, and PETA needs to be driven into the sea for legitimizing it.

This is like saying that the Dafur protests legitimized the genocide squads.

PETA's also done wonderful things like euthanize tons of pets given to them when the owners were not clear on that fact and in fact assumed they were running a rescue/adoption program.

This was perpetrated three and a half years ago by two employees (later criminally charged on multiple counts), and naturally outraged the organization. The PETA euthanization program is valuable in how they've taught shelters nationwide how to correctly put an animal down. Of the ten thousand animals PETA takes in a year, three out of four are given a home.

Peta, on the other hand, is off championing causes that don't actually exist, and really should not be listened to, ever.  Fortunately they're getting there.

They boast a membership of two million, and their marketing appears to become sleeker each year, in my view.

I'll just say that fighting strawmen with strawmen makes a lot of hay.

[Guild]

Now who's high-context?

Unless you're saying I should do more of this and less trolling?

Either way, I think it's funny how you missed the obvious: Trolling is defined as anything done with the motivation of getting a rise out of someone, ergo correcting someone, no matter how wrong-minded they're portraying themselves, can be trolling. Kinda like you on the Pony boards (or the early days of pyoko).

[Romosome]

Arc: Quite informative.  I still think their propaganda tactics end up destroying their own message and driving people away from their cause, but thanks for pointing out the disinformation.

[JDigital]

On Halloween I ate a deviled egg with a partially-split yolk. It looked like an 8 stuck inside the white.

Actually, I think that's caused by yolk forming around a speck of dust or organic matter. Whatever it is that puts the yolk into the egg, some just have two in the same eggshell. It's like two-egg twins in humans.

[Classic]

I'd go with the two in the same eggshell idea myself, but I didn't feel confident enough to posit either in the thread, so take that into consideration.

... ... I mean, it's not like, a clam or anything... I guess maybe the actual egg nucleus could have gotten lodged in the growing yolk... but...
My best bio 101 guess is egg had two yolks.

[A²]

I'm all for treating animals good, but the things I've seen PETA do are ridiculous. In my opinion they subscribe heavily to "No publicity is bad publicity" bull, and suffer for it. They seem to think  that by shocking and disgusting people, it'll bring them over to their side - except...it doesn't. Oh sure it works for some, but most people just go "Oh DISGUSTING" and avoid them. They did this one batshit insane thing a while ago and harassed everyone eating at KFC by handing out buckets of blood or...something.


Also, I think there should be a word filter instated on the board. Anytime Guild says something, it's replaced with Pokemon sounds.

[Arc]

it'll bring them over to their side - except...it doesn't.

Again, two million members. That's NRA territory, and after years of these campaigns, they appear to be bearing fruit.

Oh sure it works for some, but most people just go "Oh DISGUSTING" and avoid them. They did this one batshit insane thing a while ago and harassed everyone eating at KFC by handing out buckets of blood or...something.

From four years ago:

The 5-inch-tall, red-and-white striped containers mimic KFC's buckets. But instead of fried chicken, each is filled with items including a bag of fake blood and bones, a bloodied plastic chicken and a cardboard caricature of a blood-spattered Colonel Sanders holding a butcher knife toward a terrified-looking chicken.

Can't find any reports of harassment, or even reports of the campaign actually being enacted. KFC labeled PETA as 'corporate terrorists', and right-wing sites claimed they were 'handing our buckets of blood to children' months before the campaign had even been planned to rollout.

[Kazz]

My problem with PETA is that, instead of campaigning for humane slaughterhouses and healthy, pleasant environments for farm animals, they go straight for "Meat is murder and you're a terrible person."  They won't win me over by insulting me.

Baby steps.  You won't get the country to stop eating animals this way.

[MadMAxJr]

You do however, set up an awesome limited edition collectors market on eBay.

[Brentai]

California Prop 2 did pass this year, so obviously somebody is making headway on this issue.  Unfortunately, I sincerely doubt it was PETA*.  I've never heard them take issue with the confinement of animals on farms before, instead going straight for the "how dare you have such a thing as a farm" angle.

Is the clear hyperbole managing to have a small effect on the general conscience?  Mmmmmaybe.  But as this election has proven, you can easily go too far with your message and suffer a massive, sudden backlash.  Especially as the world agricultural industry gets more and more overstressed, PETA's going to get less sympathetic the more they push for it to get screwed up the ass with a spiked rake.


* Especially as they are not listed as a supporter or contributor in any way, which about says it all right there.

[Arc]

California Prop 2 did pass this year, so obviously somebody is making headway on this issue.  Unfortunately, I sincerely doubt it was PETA*.

* Especially as they are not listed as a supporter or contributor in any way, which about says it all right there.

HSUS led with their endorsement, while ASPCA & PETA contributed and later applauded both the California Proposition 2 & Massachusetts Proposition 3 wins.

Especially as the world agricultural industry gets more and more overstressed, PETA's going to get less sympathetic the more they push for it to get screwed up the ass with a spiked rake.

[citation needed]

[Pacobird]

PETA is more or less the sole reason people know the term "free range".  They've successfully forced numerous major agricultural companies to improve treatment of their livestock.  They are a positive force.

The stated purpose of PETA is to increase awareness of the mistreatment of animals, and they do this by shocking the conscience of society on an individual level.  They are, in essence, a gigantic publicity stunt for an important issue of our collective humanity that is frequently ignored.

They act on the (I think correct) assumption that no one actually condones the unethical treatment of animals, but nobody considers it all that important an issue, either. PETA has attempted to show that to the animals themselves, this unethical treatment is in fact very important, and they are undeniably successful in doing so.

EDIT: wrt the Bucket of Blood campaign, that was done because it is more or less true.  Fast food companies (or rather, the farms that supply them) are among the worst abusers of animals in the country, and PETA figures quite rightly that if consumers understood how animals were being treated, they wouldn't stand for it.

Combine this understanding with the fact that PETA is filled with oh-so-hip-and-ironic internet trolls like me and there you go.

[Royal☭]

Now excuse the Animal Liberation Front.



heh... ALF

[Pacobird]

The ALF is not actually an organization; it is a banner to which individual acts ranging from humanitarianism to terrorism may ascribed to promote solidarity.

[Pacobird]

PETA uses extreme rhetoric to promote a dialogue.  Are you suggesting this woman should let herself die to sustain her ideological purity? 

[Kazz]

They should come up with a way to treat diabetes that's animal-free!

[Büge]

As much as I want to give PETA some small amount of credit, it mostly seems like they rode the white guilt train past ABUSES AGAINST HUMANITY station and ran right off of the rails into absolute bonkers-loonyland.

PETA has this bizarre methodology where objectifying/exploiting women is okay as long as their point gets across. I doubt any of them have read The Sexual Politics of Meat. Cause if they did, they got it wrong.

[Classic]

 
Care to summarize a few key points for we plebs who cannot afford your "books"?