Topic: The Magically Flawed World of Disney (Read 32768 times)

Sharkey · « **Reply #20 on:** November 25, 2008, 10:51:34 AM »

Quote from: Büge on November 25, 2008, 09:10:42 AM

Also, did you notice how many visual cues to homosexual stereotypes there are in male disney villains?

To be fair, these are musicals.

But yeah, Scar is pretty faggy.

Cannon · « **Reply #21 on:** November 25, 2008, 11:02:34 AM »

I'd personally include Ursula on account of being inspired by Divine, but... Well, that's fudging it.

Catloaf · « **Reply #22 on:** November 25, 2008, 12:21:38 PM »

Well, this thread has thoroughly been derailed. Should it split to a Disney thread, animation thread, or something else?

On the topic of Disney, I still always get irritated when I think of The Lion King. But I'm a raging Tezuka fan to the point where I think some of his work should be internationally required High School reading.

Classic · « **Reply #23 on:** November 25, 2008, 12:27:45 PM »

Catloaf, tell me more about this choir you are preaching to?

Fredward · « **Reply #24 on:** November 25, 2008, 01:55:34 PM »

Quote from: Good Taste

BAN CLASSIC AND CATLOAF.

In other news, I am now downloading 8gb of Disney movies. Thanks, guys.

(also oh god matchstick girl nooooo

)

Büge · « **Reply #25 on:** November 25, 2008, 05:14:52 PM »

...you do know that The Lion King was a ripoff of Hamlet, not Kimba the White Lion?

Also, Kimba means 'dung-heap.'

Lady Duke · « **Reply #26 on:** November 25, 2008, 06:03:49 PM »

I'd just like to say that ...their movies stopped being awesome in like...1995. They turned into lazy shit animators and now they don't even do animated features (except that upcoming one with the first black princess) anymore.

Mongrel · « **Reply #27 on:** November 25, 2008, 06:48:03 PM »

Can someone threadsplit my post with The Man Who Planted Trees (and the following post with the Dutch short film) back to the DAWWWWWWW thread?

Please etc.

Brentai · « **Reply #28 on:** November 25, 2008, 07:08:27 PM »

I know it sounds all crochety and shit, but the standard use of CG really put the overall quality of animation in the crapper. Yeah, the lines look cleaner and everything moves in this more perfect smooth motion, but part of the strength of the medium is that shit didn't happen. Every artist has a subconscious sense of what looks right and the minor imperfections are actually a part of that system. Computers are stilly pretty good for post-processing and whatnot, but when you start relying on them too much you begin to take something that was resting comfortably on the left hump of the uncanny valley and kicking it down the slope.

LaserBeing · « **Reply #29 on:** November 25, 2008, 07:20:02 PM »

Quote from: Lady Duke on November 25, 2008, 06:03:49 PM

(except that upcoming one with the first black princess)

Detonator · « **Reply #30 on:** November 25, 2008, 07:21:16 PM »

Quote from: Iron_Mongrel on November 25, 2008, 06:48:03 PM

Can someone threadsplit my post with The Man Who Planted Trees (and the following post with the Dutch short film) back to the DAWWWWWWW thread?

Please etc.

Done.

And I'll split yer whining into the BAWWWWWWWW thread!

Royal☭ · « **Reply #31 on:** November 25, 2008, 07:23:02 PM »

Quote from: Brentai on November 25, 2008, 07:08:27 PM

I know it sounds all crochety and shit, but the standard use of CG really put the overall quality of animation in the crapper. Yeah, the lines look cleaner and everything moves in this more perfect smooth motion, but part of the strength of the medium is that shit didn't happen. Every artist has a subconscious sense of what looks right and the minor imperfections are actually a part of that system. Computers are stilly pretty good for post-processing and whatnot, but when you start relying on them too much you begin to take something that was resting comfortably on the left hump of the uncanny valley and kicking it down the slope.

Eh, the major contribution of computers to traditional animation is the ability to do larger crowd scenes and a more vivid palette for less. If you look at stuff from the 80s, particularly Don Bluth stuff, the animation is choppy and the colors muted forms of brown.

TA · « **Reply #32 on:** November 25, 2008, 07:31:02 PM »

Quote from: Büge on November 25, 2008, 05:14:52 PM

...you do know that The Lion King was a ripoff of Hamlet, not Kimba the White Lion?

Also, Kimba means 'dung-heap.'

It was very much of both.

Brentai · « **Reply #33 on:** November 25, 2008, 07:32:22 PM »

It's not like I hate any movies that ever used computers. God knows they didn't animate the ballroom in Beauty & the Beast by hand. It's when they tip right overboard and use it for stuff like animating faces (like in that clip Demo posted, you can tell they did it a couple times). That's downright Vader's Cloak shit right there.

Cannon · « **Reply #34 on:** November 25, 2008, 07:33:12 PM »

"Vader's Cloak?"

Detonator · « **Reply #35 on:** November 25, 2008, 07:35:00 PM »

Quote from: Brentai on November 25, 2008, 07:08:27 PM

I know it sounds all crochety and shit, but the standard use of CG really put the overall quality of animation in the crapper. Yeah, the lines look cleaner and everything moves in this more perfect smooth motion, but part of the strength of the medium is that shit didn't happen. Every artist has a subconscious sense of what looks right and the minor imperfections are actually a part of that system. Computers are stilly pretty good for post-processing and whatnot, but when you start relying on them too much you begin to take something that was resting comfortably on the left hump of the uncanny valley and kicking it down the slope.

I think both mediums were mostly shit, it's just that we're being subjected to the CG shit now, as opposed to the hand-drawn shit that everyone's forgotten by now.

Also see: video games.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #36 on:** November 25, 2008, 07:38:38 PM »

I don't think Brentai meant CG like Pixar or Chicken Little or Meet the Robinsons type crap. I think he means the antelope in Lion King, the backgrounds in Tarzan, or anything on Adult Swim these days.

Cannon · « **Reply #37 on:** November 25, 2008, 07:41:46 PM »

...What was largely wrong with Meet the Robinsons, again?

Royal☭ · « **Reply #38 on:** November 25, 2008, 07:45:09 PM »

We've gotten past the point in CG animation where hair has to look like a plastic dome on the character's head.

Thad · « **Reply #39 on:** November 25, 2008, 09:20:27 PM »

Quote from: Büge on November 25, 2008, 05:14:52 PM

...you do know that The Lion King was a ripoff of Hamlet, not Kimba the White Lion?

Can you expand on your "A movie can rip off a maximum of one source" theory?

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