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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #400 on: September 08, 2010, 08:34:08 AM »

Please make sure franklin has a huge pot belly, that somehow also has terrifyingly defined muscles. Kind of like the concept art for the Thunder God monster from Makai Kingdom.
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #401 on: September 08, 2010, 09:33:26 AM »

You're a loose cannon,  Franklin! A maverick! Turn in your kite!
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #402 on: September 08, 2010, 05:30:50 PM »



Too. Much. Work.

Seriously, it took me 7 hours straight to get that from a sketch to this, I was so out of it at the end. This is why my backgrounds are usually crap.

There has gotta be a faster way to ink and colour well!

Anyway, I want any critique you guys can chuck at me, I need to improve my colouring, and clothes folds, and all that stuff.
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #403 on: September 08, 2010, 05:46:09 PM »

Seriously, it took me 7 hours straight to get that from a sketch to this, I was so out of it at the end. This is why my backgrounds are usually crap.

There has gotta be a faster way to ink and colour well!

Yeah, there probably is.

How exactly go about coloring your drawings?
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #404 on: September 08, 2010, 10:35:54 PM »

I create a new vector layer over the sketch for the inking, and then I create layers under those for every major part, hair, skin, shirt, belts and packs, Stuff like that, and then I colour them in using the brush tool, and then I create new layers above each one, layer clip them, and then I shade them with the airbrush tool.
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #405 on: September 09, 2010, 08:41:12 AM »



There's a standing rule in any class I'm in that if I draw something someone likes they take a picture of it with their phone and email it to me. This got sent to my inbox earlier today so I thought I'd post it here.
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #406 on: September 09, 2010, 08:45:11 AM »

Stush, do you use illustrator (CS4)? If so, scanning a sketch and then overlaying the line work by hand will allow you to LivePaint, where you just color-by-number-fill each area with a single click. The mouse pointer changes into a paint bucket and there is a little scrolling color palette above it that you change on-the-fly with the left and right arrow keys. That way you only have one layer to work with. You can also add gradients to each area if you wish. Your image would have been colored in seconds instead of hours. For shading you can go into photoshop and use layer masks to darken and lighten the colors by hand.
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #407 on: September 09, 2010, 10:07:35 AM »



GREEN CLOUD NOOO oh well i don't really care anymore
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #408 on: September 09, 2010, 10:21:51 AM »

you left out the crying eagle
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #409 on: September 09, 2010, 12:09:02 PM »

I create a new vector layer over the sketch for the inking, and then I create layers under those for every major part, hair, skin, shirt, belts and packs, Stuff like that, and then I colour them in using the brush tool, and then I create new layers above each one, layer clip them, and then I shade them with the airbrush tool.

I think I may have discovered a problem. That sounds like an unnecessary amount of work, and it kind of looks sloppy (those white specks on Jacinta's overalls, where it looks like you missed coloring them in). It's way more efficient to create a selection -- I recommend the pen tool -- and fill it in with the Edit->Fill command or, hell, even just the Paint Bucket.
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #410 on: September 09, 2010, 04:38:49 PM »

Ahahah, goddamn it, I can't believe I didn't fix those, I saw them the night I finished, and I was just too buggered to go back and fix them, I was going to, but I Just never gt around to it!

But I can't use the fill tool if I do it on a layer below, can I?
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #411 on: September 09, 2010, 05:07:35 PM »

I don't really understand what you're asking.
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #412 on: September 09, 2010, 05:16:59 PM »

He's doing layered coloring. So the colors and the line art are on separate planes. He can't use the fill tool because the fill tool requires that he do it on the same plane, or at least, he's asking if it does.
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #413 on: September 09, 2010, 05:49:11 PM »

Well, assuming I understood that explanation correctly: that's why you create a selection with the pen tool or the lasso -- so that when you use the fill command, it only fills in the spaces you want.
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #414 on: September 09, 2010, 09:40:07 PM »

Because that's JUST as time-consuming. I'm telling you, try illustrator. You put a sketch in, hit LIVE TRACE and then LIVE PAINT under the OBJECT menu dropdown and then CLICK CLICK CLICK it's colored. Then you can rasterize and burn in those highlights and stuff in photoshop fairly easily, or use gradients in illustrator (the gradient tools are not super useful though).
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #415 on: September 09, 2010, 11:03:10 PM »

... that's terrible advice. Also: I hate your avatar so much. So much. You have no idea.

And no, it's not time consuming. It literally takes maybe a three minutes to create a selection outlining even a large complex object with the pen tool, plus (assuming you name them), selections are saved under the Path tab on the Layers window so you can reselect the exact same object the exact same way at the press of a button.
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #416 on: September 10, 2010, 04:00:23 AM »

Vary your line weight, Stush. Also, chiaroscuro.
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #417 on: September 10, 2010, 08:45:55 AM »

Vary your line weight, Stush. Also, chiaroscuro.

Decent advice, but honestly, I just like saying 'chiaroscuro.'  It's one of the words I could just repeat over and over until I just start laughing.

EDIT: And just to throw my thoughts in, Stush you can use the fill tool, sure, but make sure you keep on brushing over that. It adds a nice effect and keeps you in the habit of painting your things by hand, which really comes in handy when you start doing advanced coloring stuff.
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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #418 on: September 10, 2010, 10:21:01 AM »

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Re: Make mine doodles
« Reply #419 on: September 10, 2010, 11:05:26 AM »

EDIT: And just to throw my thoughts in, Stush you can use the fill tool, sure, but make sure you keep on brushing over that. It adds a nice effect and keeps you in the habit of painting your things by hand, which really comes in handy when you start doing advanced coloring stuff.

Didn't mean to imply otherwise. The fill tool is useful for establishing what is essentially the underpainting.

Also, and this is just my own personal technique: I create dozens of layers comprised of barely visible shading and highlighting. First by using a customized brush designed to emulate a flat brush, with the brush's opacity and flow turned down to 25%, and then lowering the opacity of the layer itself, usually down to between 66% and 25%, and sometimes as low as 15%. I usually stop at around thirty layers. It's a slow, arduous method, but I love the effects I can get with it.



I use this for Alana's eyes. But, look at that. It looks like a shiny blue pearl.
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