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Author Topic: It's the economy, stupid!  (Read 73247 times)

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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #300 on: February 15, 2009, 12:59:28 PM »

If only this bill were passed last year, I would still have that travel agent job. :dead:
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #301 on: February 15, 2009, 01:37:23 PM »

If only this bill were passed last year, Obama might not be president.

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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #302 on: February 15, 2009, 02:01:26 PM »

If it wasn't for my horse, I never would have spent that year in college.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #303 on: February 15, 2009, 02:07:20 PM »

Fox News, of all things, raised a valid point (albeit probably accidentally): for all the Republicans have invested in blocking the stimulus, they haven't breathed so much as a whisper of a better idea.

This means that even if the Republicans get everything they've ever asked for and turn out to be right about the plan, the best outcome for them will be America turning and saying "Well now we're even worse off and it's still your fault, and you're still not helping."
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #304 on: February 15, 2009, 03:11:05 PM »

Well the problem is that from the stand point that a lot of the GOP have, the recession isn't the problem. The bubble was the problem, the recession is the solution. So literally their solution is to do nothing and let it sort its self out. And they may be right, this stimulus may not work, and the only solution may be to wait until the market corrects its self in 4-10 years. That being said, when you're looking at the kind of market collapse that we are, spending a trillion or three on a good shot attempt to fix things seems justified even if it doesn't work. The only real issue would be if excess government spending started to cause runaway inflation, but since we're actually edging towards deflation right now, I don't think that's really an issue.

But yeah, as stupid as Biden is for saying it, the "even if we do everything right there's still a 30% chance it won't work" line may be very accurate.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #305 on: February 15, 2009, 05:58:21 PM »

If it wasn't for my horse, I never would have spent that year in college.

I want to meet him to ask him if there was any sort of context for that.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #306 on: February 15, 2009, 09:56:07 PM »

The entire point of the bit was that there was no context.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #307 on: February 25, 2009, 10:26:16 PM »

The Sub-Prime Mortgage Crisis in Adobe After Effects:

http://vimeo.com/3261363
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #308 on: February 25, 2009, 10:42:32 PM »

Fox News, of all things, raised a valid point (albeit probably accidentally): for all the Republicans have invested in blocking the stimulus, they haven't breathed so much as a whisper of a better idea.

This means that even if the Republicans get everything they've ever asked for and turn out to be right about the plan, the best outcome for them will be America turning and saying "Well now we're even worse off and it's still your fault, and you're still not helping."

Course, they're still letting Bill O'Reilly get on there and say ludicrous shit like "We shouldn't give any more money to schools, because they're failing anyway, and I went to a public school with 60 students per class and look how I turned out!"
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #310 on: March 09, 2009, 02:30:26 PM »

Arlen Specter is an interesting guy. All the Repubs vote for him, of course, but sometimes he talks and it actually makes sense.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #311 on: March 09, 2009, 04:41:31 PM »

Yeah, but then he votes with the rest of the Republicans.

This is called bipartisanship.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #312 on: March 09, 2009, 05:05:40 PM »

Far be it from me to question Thad, but...

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Specter cast one of only three Republican votes for the stimulus package that President Barack Obama signed last month, drawing flak from members of his party, particularly conservatives.

I take it there are other examples?
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #313 on: March 18, 2009, 10:23:37 AM »

Caught a bit of the AIG testimony today.

WOW, congreemen were having a FIELD DAY left right and centre. It's not often politicos get such an beautiful sacrifical goat to pillory, and the bluster was hammering away at Liddy full force. You'd think there was a war on.

Who the hell was that fellow looking for all the world like a jowly mid-level mafia boss? His Q&A session looked like more like a shakedown. The funniest part was that Liddy is quite clearly smarter than that particular congressman, but his position is just so indescribably awful all he can do is sit there.

Grand prize of the afternoon goes to Don Congressissimo (whoever he is), for his crack about "there's legislation coming down the pipe called 'I can't believe it's not waterboarding'".

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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #314 on: March 18, 2009, 10:44:15 PM »

A couple of AIG execs agree to return their bonuses.

I'd call that a hint at maybe the faintest flickering glimmer of the good in humanity if it weren't nestled right next to the story about same execs getting buried in death threats.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #315 on: March 22, 2009, 12:20:50 PM »

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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #316 on: March 22, 2009, 01:02:41 PM »

Oh, god. Rolling Stone's political articles tend to be very :facepalm: to the point that I don't even read them anymore. I just can't take them seriously anymore. They're very nearly as bad as Fox News, to be quite honest.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #317 on: March 22, 2009, 01:14:44 PM »

Yes, I suppose their use of facts, figures and resources is such a dire tactic much like Fox News uses.  Yes, you're very correct.  At least they're not off-handidly dismissing an article without reading it, though, that'd be true asshole behavior.

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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #318 on: March 22, 2009, 01:19:41 PM »

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"The marketplace is a pretty crummy place to be right now," he said.

Wh-where the hell else can you be?  That's like saying "This isn't the time to be breathing oxygen" or "If you're maintaining a solid molecular structure, stop right now."
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #319 on: March 22, 2009, 01:22:49 PM »

Turns out, there's other ways to make money than just investing in the stock market.
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