Topic: TF2 Nights (Read 172891 times)

Torgo · « **Reply #2240 on:** April 30, 2010, 07:13:31 PM »

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Thanks, Valve. I love your new look.

Defenseless Cow · « **Reply #2241 on:** April 30, 2010, 07:35:40 PM »

Spy really clicked with me tonight. I topped the scoreboard and broke 100 points without even being a soldier! Hell even one of the pubbies thought I mained spy.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #2242 on:** April 30, 2010, 07:50:17 PM »

I wish I didn't have to eat food and deal with people and then I would not miss the one time a month that we play Frontier.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2243 on:** April 30, 2010, 08:24:23 PM »

Quote from: Defenseless Cow on April 30, 2010, 07:35:40 PM

Spy really clicked with me tonight. I topped the scoreboard and broke 100 points without even being a soldier! Hell even one of the pubbies thought I mained spy.

*cough* pyro *cough*

Defenseless Cow · « **Reply #2244 on:** April 30, 2010, 09:47:31 PM »

Cannon as pyro "killed" me about 8 times in a row except I DRed out of all of them.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2245 on:** May 01, 2010, 08:20:51 AM »

Oh yeah, it's nice that spies now have NO COUNTER CLASS.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #2246 on:** May 01, 2010, 09:34:18 AM »

The fire still reveals the spy, if nothing else.

Frocto · « **Reply #2247 on:** May 01, 2010, 09:49:40 AM »

oh yeah like I'm going to use my poofgun ammo on that shitty secondary "reveal spy" feature

Makaris · « **Reply #2248 on:** May 01, 2010, 10:23:44 AM »

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1250231

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Defenseless Cow · « **Reply #2249 on:** May 01, 2010, 11:25:33 AM »

I agree with the first reply. That's why they made the homewrecker!

Smiler · « **Reply #2250 on:** May 01, 2010, 11:33:56 AM »

Except the pyro will never get close the the sentry because as soon as the sentry starts shooting, the pyro can't get close. So yeah, homewrecker is still shitty and so is the pyro.

Makaris · « **Reply #2251 on:** May 01, 2010, 11:36:19 AM »

They kinda need to go back to their original design philosophy with the Pyro. He should be a close range DPS beast. People should fear letting the Pyro get close. Fire should be a Bad Thing rather than UberJuice.

Crouton · « **Reply #2252 on:** May 01, 2010, 11:40:19 AM »

I've yet to run into that problem, but only because medics are ubering more useful targets than engies.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #2253 on:** May 01, 2010, 12:22:15 PM »

The problem seems to be that the most vocal portion of the player base is the portion that says pyro is for noobs who just want to W+M1 and now that that's been broken they're all going to bawww forever.

Somehow, Valve has let this attitude affect how they make updates.

Edit: I almost wish I was playing this on xbox so that Valve wouldn't have so many opportunities to fuck everything up.

Defenseless Cow · « **Reply #2254 on:** May 01, 2010, 01:46:07 PM »

Except, I'm pretty sure at release the flamethrower also did really small amounts of damage until they buffed it at the pyro update. Just that the afterburn was much more useful.

Edit: He also didn't even have airblast, so he was basically todays pyro with no airblast and slightly better afterburn.

Brentai · « **Reply #2255 on:** May 01, 2010, 02:07:06 PM »

Last time I played, a team of pyros could W+M1 down the field pretty much with impunity. I don't disagree with a slight nerf.

The -20% is pretty ridiculous, though. I've been playing again out of curiosity and yeah, as a Heavy I could basically stand around taking a shower of flames for as long as it took to spin up my gun and still lumber away with more than half health. Ambush Pyro does absolutely fuckall.

I always thought of Pyro as basically a visible spy. If you let him get close to you, you fucking deserve to melt to death. If it were up to me, I'd give him his rape DPS back, but lower his health so he can't just suicide blitz up to people. Give Backburner its +50 HP back if you're really serious about trying to actually balance weapons.

Makaris · « **Reply #2256 on:** May 01, 2010, 02:30:20 PM »

Pyro could never suicide blitz people. He would die against any half way competent player because they can either over power him or, at the very least, weapon heckle him.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2257 on:** May 01, 2010, 03:00:38 PM »

The point is that regardless of the past, many classes are much more lethal than they ever were before. Release-day Pyro didn't have to contend with DR Spies, now-buffed Heavies, Direct Hit Soldiers, Targe flame damage reduction, or any number of other things, to say nothing of the fact that Pyro was once considered among the more mobile classes, but is now nearer to the bottom of the pack, thanks to unlocks such as the Gunboats.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2258 on:** May 01, 2010, 03:15:56 PM »

Quote from: Torgo on April 30, 2010, 07:13:31 PM

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Steam - Fatal Error
Fatal Error: Failed to load platform modules

Thanks, Valve. I love your new look.

By the way Torgo: Delete your Steam.dll file. It'll force a re-download of the file, which should solve the problem. There have been a lot of updates that are randomly corrupting the Steam.dll file

Makaris · « **Reply #2259 on:** May 01, 2010, 03:34:07 PM »

The gunboats are worthless. I would say the Pyro's apparent lack of mobility is more due to people figuring out better and better ways to Rocket Jump and Sticky Jump... I'm not even sure if the designers had even considered Sticky Jumping when they designed the Demo.

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