Topic: I Don't Do Windows (Read 50617 times)

Bal · « **Reply #360 on:** February 19, 2013, 09:02:18 AM »

Objectively, yes.

TA · « **Reply #361 on:** February 19, 2013, 09:24:08 AM »

Sharkey · « **Reply #362 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:58:13 AM »

I've actually had a couple people tell me that 8 is pretty alright, provided you hack the start menu back in and just generally go to great lengths to circumvent everything that makes it 8. Kinda like Win 98 being pretty boss if all you use is a dos window.

Mongrel · « **Reply #363 on:** February 19, 2013, 11:42:38 AM »

So... Win 8 is good if you make it into Win 7?

R^2 · « **Reply #364 on:** February 19, 2013, 11:50:46 AM »

Quote from: Thad on February 18, 2013, 11:03:29 PM

Mac users like paying extra money for the same thing, right?

Isn't that kind of Apple's entire business model?

Thad · « **Reply #365 on:** February 19, 2013, 12:41:43 PM »

Sharkey · « **Reply #366 on:** February 19, 2013, 01:41:02 PM »

Quote from: Mongrel on February 19, 2013, 11:42:38 AM

So... Win 8 is good if you make it into Win 7?

X2 COMBOB

Thad · « **Reply #367 on:** February 19, 2013, 02:30:57 PM »

Pity, because, as noted earlier, Win8 DOES have a couple compelling brass-tacks features. My favorites are (1) a filecopy system that was not designed in the 1980's and (2) a Task Manager that doesn't just tell you how much RAM and CPU each program is using, but also how much bandwidth and HD activity.

A² · « **Reply #368 on:** February 19, 2013, 03:27:59 PM »

While trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop get a free TF2 hat, it took me 3 hours to get it up and running, and then when I tried to run TF2 the first time, it crashed, deleted TF2, deleted Steam, deleted the installer, and then shut down.

I reinstalled Ubuntu and Steam, got my hat, got someone else's hat, and shut it down.

Now it won't boot up, it just hangs at the Ubuntu screen

Friend · « **Reply #369 on:** February 19, 2013, 04:47:45 PM »

I've actually been having similar problems with WUBI. For some reason this past week, I decided to increase the size of my ubuntu partition by reinstalling it. Of course, this deleted all of my data on that partition that I stupidly forgot to back up. Nothing crucial, so whatever. But for some reason, the new partition has problems installing and will either crash, boot up to GRUB, or if the reinstallation finally works, it runs incredibly slowly. I'll open Firefox or open a directory and the screen will go gray and unusable for a minute. Updating it helped it with the slowness issues slightly; now it only freezes when I open firefox and a directory simultaneously. Of course, for some inexplicable reason, that barely usable partition also stopped working the next time I booted it.

Not to mention when I first time I tried to reinstall(some time this weekend, I think it was Saturday or Sunday), WUBI installed ubuntu 13.04(???) for some reason. This OS didn't have any problems with speed at all as far as I could tell. The only problem I had with it was that I could only log in as guest. The newest version of WUBI forces you to include a username and password when you're installing, so you already have an account set up when you load up Ubuntu for the first time. However, 13.04 didn't have the default profile set up so I had to choose which user to log into. The account that I set up in WUBI didn't work.

What the fuck Ubuntu why is everything breaking. This is literally the only time I can think of in the past 2-3 years of using Ubuntu that I've had a serious problem. It's like all those times I probably should have been suffering computer bullshit but didn't has finally caught up with me.

So yeah, dunno if you're also using WUBI (and I dunno if that's the problem, I might've gotten these same issues if I installed a fresh copy of ubuntu over my entire hard drive), but it seems like they've been having some problems or something.

Thad · « **Reply #370 on:** February 19, 2013, 09:49:24 PM »

Ubuntu for Tablets coming this week (in beta); sounds like it's got some interesting features for power users. Multiple user accounts, multitasking (ie you can have two apps running onscreen at once), and can be docked and run as a fully-featured Ubuntu OS. I'm definitely intrigued, though I don't know if I've got the time or inclination to fuck with it this early. Depends on a lot of things like touch-ready apps.

Thad · « **Reply #371 on:** March 05, 2013, 02:09:49 PM »

Ubuntu to dump X.

I've been waiting for a viable alternative to X since I first used X in the late 1990's; it was out-of-date then. It would be swell if Canonical COULD actually cook up an alternative that's viable, backward-compatible, and useful for other distros -- but I'm not holding my breath. Canonical is in it for Ubuntu, and indeed the announcement is VERY SPECIFIC about all the ways they need this for cross-platform Unity implementation reasons.

If it's actually useful for DE's that aren't Unity, that would be swell -- but I wouldn't count on it.

dtsund · « **Reply #372 on:** March 06, 2013, 12:09:53 PM »

Everything I've heard about Mir makes it sound like a really bad idea. Apparently their technical arguments around why they couldn't just use Wayland are straight-up bunk (snippet of #wayland IRC discussion), to the point where they wound up retracting them a day later. On top of that, Canonical's Mir team apparently doesn't have a lot of experience with such low-level display implementation.

What has me most concerned, though, is the driver situation. Current Linux graphics drivers are all designed around X; presumably Wayland and Mir drivers will be designed around Wayland and Mir respectively, and won't really be interoperable. We're going to find ourselves in a situation where manufacturers are going to be asked to make an X driver and a Wayland driver and a Mir driver, and since Linux isn't exactly the biggest market to start with I sort of find myself thinking that they'll just say "no, screw all of this".

Thad · « **Reply #373 on:** March 06, 2013, 06:29:40 PM »

Well, fragmentation's always the threat in the open-source world. But if we were to see the major distributions adopt Wayland/Mir/whatever with the same rapidity they did GNOME 3, it wouldn't be a concern -- X would be out, New Thing would be in, the proprietary driver devs would drop support for X in favor of New Thing.

The problem of Mir is of course that it really doesn't seem like the type of thing that's going to be useful to the other distros, and it's one more step forward in the world where (desktop) Linux is split between Ubuntu and Everybody Else.

Of course, at this point it doesn't even look like Ubuntu's trying to play the same game as the other desktop distros -- it's got its eye on competing with Android. Meantime, it's already losing ground to Mint on the desktop, because users are already pretty ambivalent about Unity.

Thad · « **Reply #374 on:** March 06, 2013, 09:26:24 PM »

Quote from: Thad on February 17, 2013, 09:19:50 PM

Office 2013 to be locked to the computer you first install it on.

Seems like sort of a weird and unnecessary move. The majority of Office's sales are either with new computers or as bulk licenses for business users; there doesn't seem to be much to gain here except an opportunity to say "fuck you" to the minority of end users who buy Office as a download or a box.

MS is reversing course. Now you'll be able to switch computers every 90 days, or immediately if it's due to a hardware failure. (Not sure how they're going to verify that it's actually a hardware failure; my guess is, like all authentication schemes, "poorly".)

Thad · « **Reply #375 on:** March 14, 2013, 10:41:13 AM »

...oh, new OpenSUSE version out. THAT'S why all my updates keep timing out.

Thad · « **Reply #376 on:** March 16, 2013, 11:30:32 AM »

Update itself appears to have gone off without a hitch.

Color scheme and widget style are generally appealing, except in he taskbar where I can't easily tell what desktop I'm on or what programs are open.

(EDIT: Unsurprisingly, it works better if you enable compositing. I've made it this far without enabling it, but after some fiddling I find that it's acceptable as long as I disable translucency and outline. That's probably not an exhaustive list -- I'm sure I disabled a bunch of other effects the last time I tried to make a go of it. Basically I disabled as much as I could to get it to run as close to the non-composited version of KDE as possible.)

OpenSUSE appears to have finally given up on that weird-ass default KDE 4.x desktop style where your desktop folder appears as a widget on top of the desktop. (EDIT 2: Nope, that's back after logging out and back in.)

Aaaand I've gotten some LEGITIMATELY WEIRD fucking behavior involving the system tray. I clicked on ktorrent in the system tray and it took me to a completely different set of workspaces; my open programs were not listed when I hit Alt-Tab, nor were they listed in the taskbar (which itself showed a different set of programs than it had before). It wasn't as if I was just on a different desktop; all four desktops were empty except for ktorrent and anything else I clicked on while trying to figure out what was going on.

I clicked on Kopete in the tray and it took me back to my previous set of open programs. Damnedest thing. Haven't been able to reproduce it so I'm hoping it was a one-time thing.

Thad · « **Reply #377 on:** March 19, 2013, 04:33:35 PM »

Several of my frontends for mplayer weren't displaying video; I eventually realized OpenGL wasn't working. On reboot I couldn't get X at all.

Eventually traced it to some FS-level corruption -- the /etc/ld.so.conf.d/nvidia-gfxG03.conf was completely unreadable. As in, couldn't even delete/rename/chown it.

I've still got my old Ubuntu drive in this box, so I booted to that and ran an fsck on my OpenSUSE boot partition; after that I managed to delete the file, remove and reinstall the nVidia driver, and get OpenGL working.

So my last major outstanding issue since the upgrade is that I can't access my Samba shares. Can't mount them from the command line, can't access them from Dolphin. (ownCloud seems to be able to sync to them okay.) So I still need to figure that out.

Kayma · « **Reply #378 on:** April 05, 2013, 06:10:31 PM »

I installed Ubuntu 12.10 w/ Unity to dodge some some GPO shenanigans by an incorrigible group of would-be desktop support with too much access to AD.

Much happier to be in the Linux club, particularly since I commandeered a VMWare View Windows workstation as well. Having a severe annoyance with Pidgin in Unity, though: I'm noticing a bug where the notification icon for Pidgin (up there by the clock) will mysteriously disappear after using the system for short while. If I ctr + alt + arrow key to switch virtual desktops, it shows up again, but only until I let go. It's the strangest thing... and it's driving me mad.

Tried Cinnamon, XFCE, Gnome 3, and probably something else I'm forgetting on a test machine, but none of them get along with my VMWare workstation in full screen mode. Why can't I just have cake and also eat that cake?

Thad · « **Reply #379 on:** April 05, 2013, 07:00:56 PM »

Unity integration's still pretty buggy. You can always take a crack at one of the other DE's and see if they're more to your liking.

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