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Author Topic: To Steam Or Not To Steam  (Read 18194 times)

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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #200 on: March 30, 2009, 10:52:26 AM »

That's actually kind of the point, Kazz.  Unconscionable conditions of your transaction buried in an unenforceable EULA you don't see until after "purchase".  Even if that kind of purchase were legitimate, which it's not, the store page certainly says that you're buying the game itself.
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #201 on: March 30, 2009, 11:38:36 AM »

sue em then
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #202 on: March 30, 2009, 01:15:04 PM »

Tripwire is at least honest.  I mean, after they have your money.
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #203 on: November 08, 2009, 12:23:24 AM »


Just wanted to chip in with something I found to back up an argument I made back in Febuary. I admit my wording of it as a "promise" was too much, it's not a set in stone thing, but it IS from Gabe himself

Quote from: Gabe
If you right click on a game in Steam, you'll see that you can back up the files yourself. Unless there was some situation I don't understand, we would presumably disable authentication before any event that would preclude the authentication servers from being available.

We've tested disabling authentication and it works.

In response to someone emailing him about "What happens to my games if Steam dies?"

Source: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10642189&postcount=28
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #204 on: November 08, 2009, 09:44:13 AM »

All Steam games will wander the internet and become a hive mind AI that will swear revenge against humanity for abandoning it so long ago.
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #205 on: November 08, 2009, 01:07:57 PM »

"What was that, Lamar?  Kill them all?  GOOD IDEA!  HA HA HA!"
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #206 on: November 08, 2009, 01:14:46 PM »

All Steam games will wander the internet and become a hive mind AI that will swear revenge against humanity for abandoning it so long ago.

So, basically like the American Midwest.
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #207 on: March 09, 2010, 04:41:18 PM »

...so um I'm reviving this thread.  I take full responsibility for whatever shitstorm may follow.

May have been brought up already (though I can't find it with a search), but Steam's coming to Mac.  Not only that, but Valve's porting its back catalog over, and releasing all its future games for both platforms.  Not only THAT, but if you bought the game for Windows, you can download it for Mac at no additional charge.  Not only THAT, but if you're playing on your MacBook Pro and then go home and play on your Windows desktop, your save will go straight across.

First of all, this could be a major step in bringing the Mac out of the ghetto as a gaming platform.  Valve's joined Blizzard in showing serious love for Mac users, and could lead other devs to do the same.

And second, all that shit about getting the game on multiple platforms?  Most companies don't do that.  Blizzard does, but I can't think of another major publisher off the top of my head.  (I remember a friend who owned both platforms bought KotOR for Mac some years back and discovering he'd paid twice what the PC version had been discounted to.)

Anyway, stuff like being able to seamlessly transfer games across platforms is a serious value-add in my book.  And it makes for an interesting tradeoff for what you get with an oldschool disc-style you-can-resell-it-but-it-won't-work-on-a-Mac (again, Blizzard notwithstanding) game purchase.

I am guessing TA is still not interested, but I find the whole thing pretty impressive, if still imperfect.
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #208 on: March 09, 2010, 09:03:05 PM »

I'm impressed by the effort alone, honestly, and it's an elegant implementation of the Steam Cloud, which hadn't had a very high profile, despite being neat.
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #209 on: March 09, 2010, 09:05:31 PM »

I'm just amazed Valve is finally easing off their Windows only rhetoric.  I suspect it may also be an attempt to keep PC gaming going.  Valve claims they manage to bring in pretty big sales over Steam, but the market could still benefit from an expanded base.

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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #210 on: March 09, 2010, 09:16:10 PM »

I don't think Valve ever had a Windows only, or anti-Mac rhetoric, it just wasn't cost effective for a team as small as they are to make the effort. It's more that Macs have moved closer to PCs and Valve than Valve moving closer to Macs.
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #211 on: March 09, 2010, 09:32:24 PM »

Well that's pretty much 100% of the developers in this industry who haven't taken up developing for consoles and then lazily porting them, so Mac support is preeeeetty much on parity with PC support now.

Think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #212 on: April 13, 2010, 07:06:06 PM »

I just noticed that Counter-Strike: Source is number 10 on Steam's weekly top ten sales chart. It's $20, six years old, and hasn't received any substantive content updates anytime recently.

So why is it suddenly outselling Team Fortress 2?
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #213 on: April 13, 2010, 08:23:41 PM »

Because they can fuck with those numbers so people think they should buy a game that sucks?

Or I'unno, it's a pretty busy birthday season, whole batch of new twelve-year-olds.
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #214 on: April 14, 2010, 04:30:26 PM »

Well, now you know what's my position in the debate.

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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #215 on: April 15, 2010, 10:39:24 AM »

Counter-Strike: Source is a consistently high seller on Steam, and always has been. I think the reason is two-fold. It's cheap, and people eventually succumb to the peer pressure of friends, or the desire to see what the big deal is, and there are a lot of cheaters who just buy new copies of the game on new accounts every time they get VAC banned.
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #216 on: April 15, 2010, 01:08:24 PM »

I can't believe that people still play CS.

I mean, I played the shit out of that game and I can't see why it would be preferable over say CoD4.

I guess it does have the whole, get weapons through performance during a round rather than grind forever and then always have them. Sort of DotA vs WoW I guess.

But that aspect of CS never really seemed like a core mechanic to me although I have to admit, being given the choice between the two, I HATE the weapon grinding mechanic in CoD4 and Bad Company 2 and much prefer CS's system of having to earn different weapons during a round.

But I love the iron sights via right click mechanic enough that I'll still play Bads Company or CoD4 over CS.

Holy shit does Bad Company 2 multiplayer have a lot of problems though.
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #217 on: April 15, 2010, 02:10:27 PM »

Steaming is best for vegetables, as it doesn't cause much damage to the nutritional value. Generally speaking, the more colourful a vegetable is, the healthier it is. It's easy, too! Just put your washed veggies in a glass microwave-safe container with a lid, add enough water to cover the bottom and microwave for two minutes.
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Re: To Steam Or Not To Steam
« Reply #218 on: April 15, 2010, 07:08:13 PM »

I can't believe that people still play CS.

I mean, I played the shit out of that game and I can't see why it would be preferable over say CoD4.

Familiarity, inertia, and abundance of available players.

See also this thing.
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #219 on: May 26, 2010, 02:33:15 PM »

Valve makes awesome video to announce six year old game coming to OSX. Still no news on Episode Three

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN6eFGGHrXs
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