Topic: Vampires Versus Werewolves IV (Read 53437 times)

A² · « **Reply #660 on:** March 02, 2009, 07:19:08 PM »

As the rope tightens around my neck, let it be known that to the very end, this wolf worked for the glory of her pack. And killed the Weretiger for you.
Take care of my Lumber Mill.

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #661 on:** March 02, 2009, 07:30:25 PM »

Quote from: McFrugal on March 02, 2009, 06:57:00 PM

I also noticed that whoever has the Star Power isn't publicly visible. It'd be nice if an inno has it.

Sup, that'd be me. Also, and this should come as no surprise, but nobody did any scrying last night--was looking in my ball, and just saw myself, who was looking into my ball, looking at myself, who was looking into my ball, looking at myself, etc.

Friday · « **Reply #662 on:** March 02, 2009, 07:34:56 PM »

Lyrai is dragged to the front porch and put into the doghouse, where she belongs.

Because she's a dirty wolf. And a lumberjack. And she's invisible. Really, she's just sort of odd, and anyway, she doesn't seem to mind the rain outside. Better for all parties involved, probably.

Night role --

Hey! All of them are in!

Lee-Ham is found in a bloody heap.

He was innocent, with the Seer's Glasses.

Also, Stush left me a message about what to do if he won the Cross and/or Pendant (he won both) so I will go ahead and do that now.

Stush walks up to Rygaron and REALLY makes sure he's not a bad guy by using both items on him. Rygaron does not melt from either.

4 Players remain.

Rygaron
Newbie
McFrugal
Stush

THE FINAL DAY. DO OR DIE, INNOCENTS.

3 VOTES TO END THIS GAME.

Friday · « **Reply #663 on:** March 02, 2009, 07:42:05 PM »

Also, please keep in mind that Star Power doesn't matter for lynch. Lynch goes right through, in case anyone was wondering.

McFrugal · « **Reply #664 on:** March 02, 2009, 07:43:42 PM »

Alright, we aren't lynching Rygaron, that's obvious.

Oh since this is the final day, perhaps you should tell us if you whipped anyone last night? If you were able to...?

McFrugal · « **Reply #665 on:** March 02, 2009, 07:55:49 PM »

I should also note- now that it's safe- that I have the Voting Box, the Money Tree, the Scry Detector, and just recently acquired the Purse Spyglass, which I used upon Newbie. He has the Star Power and crystal ball.

McDohl scried me the night before he was lynched, and Newbie saw that I have the voting box and scry detector as well. I do not know why the vamps didn't turn me. It would've been the key to victory, as all that would be required today is one incorrect vote. ...actually they would still win if I vote alongside someone who votes wrong, so I want to be ABSOLUTELY SURE before we lynch Newbie or Stush.

Oh and hey... Newbie! I believe you are LYING about there not being a scry. There's no reason for an inno to not use the glasses, even if they knew a Turned might have the crystal ball. A Turned would have no benefit from gaining information at this point, as there are NO MORE NIGHT ROLES to be revealed!

Feel free to argue against my position, everyone.

Quick edit: also why would an inno announce that they have the star power? It makes it useless.

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #666 on:** March 02, 2009, 08:11:32 PM »

Thought Lyrai was the last one we needed, and assumed the "I'm seeing myself" bit meant that nobody was scrying. Pretty boneheaded of me.

Gonna take a shower before I review the thread to try to decide which of Stush and McFrugal was more likely turned. Let's here your theories, guys; this is it.

McFrugal · « **Reply #667 on:** March 02, 2009, 08:21:21 PM »

...actually that does make sense, if you think of the crystal ball as seeing whatever the seer's seeing.

I wait for Rygaron's reply!

Beat Bandit · « **Reply #668 on:** March 02, 2009, 08:26:29 PM »

Stush. I'm starting this because no one else will so I can be the one that feels really bad when he's not it.

I haven't trusted Newbie or McFrugal since pretty much day one, and can think of a dozen reasons to lynch either. However, Stush used both those valuable items on me and I can understand making sure, but that seems like hoarding and ditching, he didn't want to use them on anyone else to prove innocence so there was a better chance of a vote for him.

Also, even if we vote wrong tonight, technically if I whip the last vamp after his kill tonight doesn't that still leave more innos than vamps for the next turn?

McFrugal · « **Reply #669 on:** March 02, 2009, 08:27:50 PM »

Oh... also turn order would mean LH couldn't have used the glasses last night. He had one night he could've used them in, and the Olrox was active then.

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #670 on:** March 02, 2009, 08:45:37 PM »

Yeah, I would think a 1 on 1 game of "Vampire vs Vampire Hunter" should default to the innocents, since the vampire hunter is immune to vampires. But Friday's the one setting the winning conditions here, so I guess we'll find out? Hopefully not?

I think Stush is more likely, yeah. McFrugal kind of makes me nervice because he contacted McDohl directly before we lynched him, and Olrox might conceivably have turned him in the mean time. But the time for debate is now officially past.

Stush.

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #671 on:** March 02, 2009, 08:58:29 PM »

Actually, I think innocent victory is guaranteed at this point. If Rygaron is Julius and I have Star Power, neither one of us can be killed by a vampire at night. We kill Stush today, and even if McFrugal is a vamp, he can only gnash his teeth in fury--and the fact that nobody dies proves that he's the one that has to go.

Beat Bandit · « **Reply #672 on:** March 02, 2009, 09:05:55 PM »

This went a little differently than I expected but the results really play out the same.

McFrugal has the voting box, so he could have won the second I put Stush's name in bold, but didn't. That either means he likes torturing us and really, in my eyes deserves the win, or he's a bona fide innocent. Newbie, on the other hand, ignores this and even goes so far as to state that should this go into overtime McFrugal should be my choice to whip.

Should all else fail that at least means that if Newbie were the vamp and we didn't lynch him today, that's a full win.

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #673 on:** March 02, 2009, 09:10:23 PM »

If you really think that, after all this time, the vampires have finally decided to turn me, the most notoriously TERRIBLE player of all time (aside from, I dunno, Guild), then we innocents deserve to lose.

McFrugal could actually win it if he's the vampire. I forgot he had the voting box, and he can simply vote to lynch you tomorrow, eliminating the the question of whether a single vamp can win if the only innocent is a Belmont.

Beat Bandit · « **Reply #674 on:** March 02, 2009, 09:12:45 PM »

You're right. I forgot 'turn player who is a proven innocent and has a bunch of awesome toys after the only one that can prove he's no longer innocent is dead' was a bad tactic.

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #675 on:** March 02, 2009, 09:15:15 PM »

Quote from: Rygaron on March 02, 2009, 09:12:45 PM

You're right. I forgot 'turn player who is a proven innocent and has a bunch of awesome toys after the only one that can prove he's no longer innocent is dead' was a bad tactic.

The only "awesome toy" i have is the scry detector, which is kind of pointless if the only living seer is Olrox.

McFrugal couldn't win tonight if we lynched Stush, so he HAS to wait until you vote for me. I can only assume he's not paying attention to the thread.

McFrugal · « **Reply #676 on:** March 02, 2009, 09:16:57 PM »

Hey Newbie, this is me not lynching you. HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT?

...I'm waiting for Stush to post. I hated getting lynched in the middle of posting when I was the GV, and I don't want to do that to someone else.

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #677 on:** March 02, 2009, 09:19:56 PM »

Alternately, Stush really is the vampire, McFrugal just wanted to think things over since his is the deciding vote, and we're overthinking things.

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #678 on:** March 02, 2009, 09:20:14 PM »

Retract my vote.

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #679 on:** March 02, 2009, 09:30:12 PM »

I think we can reason through this. 3 of the 4 of us are assured of our own innocence, and we all know Rygaron's innocent. The two non-Rygaron innocents have 50/50 chance of picking the right person; Rygaron has a 1 in 3 choice.

Of the three candidates: one has star power, one has the voting box, and one has neither. Setting aside the possibility of "guilty behavior" making one person more probable than the other--let's face it, we've all been acting as innocent as possible, while giving off the occasional unintentional vampire vibe--the way to maximize our chances is to try to get as many lynching opportunities as possible.

If the vampire is either McFrugal or Stush, the innocents won't lose at night. If the vampire is McFrugal, though, we will probably lose the following morning, since as long as he votes before both of us do, the lynch will go through.

I wonder if it would be easier to do a brute-force chart of all possible vampiric identities and lynching outcomes?

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