Topic: Watchmen (Read 41387 times)

Royal☭ · « **Reply #340 on:** May 26, 2010, 08:31:13 PM »

To me the squid seemed to be picked because of how otherworldly it was supposed to be. It was something that the world couldn't blame on any one country or entity, and was designed to united everyone in world peace. Something so freaky and obviously out of this world.

But it also carried meta-textual meaning. In a world based loosely on DC properties and centered on teams bearing a resemble to the Justice League, it's no coincidence that Veidt destroys New York with a monster that looks like Starro. Moore seems to have been intentionally making a reference to the Justice League's first appearance, and turning the adventure on his head. Whereas most super teams engage the alien invader and fight in defense of Earth, this one was just a giant bomb that didn't even survive the trip, and the heroes couldn't engage it in combat.

It was a brilliant master stroke by Moore that uses a history of comics and genre fiction to make point. But, it only really works in the context of the graphic novel. For the movie, it was actually better to just go with Dr. Manhattan nuking everyone.

Brentai · « **Reply #341 on:** May 26, 2010, 08:44:32 PM »

So who plays the role of the guy who happens to survive because he was covered in shit at the time?

Frocto · « **Reply #342 on:** May 26, 2010, 08:56:58 PM »

Well, yeah, the way it's presented is completely at odds with the rest of the book on purpose. That's the only time you see those sorts of colours being used and also the only time you see any amount of blood in the entire comic book.

I forget if it was someone on here who originally said this, but the comic book is totally clean and bloodless right up until the end where suddenly it's gore everywhere, while the movie has gross, awful violence all the way through and then the explosion at the end is absolutely sanitary and neat and tidy. I think that was the biggest place the movie fucked up.

Brentai · « **Reply #343 on:** May 26, 2010, 09:18:02 PM »

There was plenty of blood. Some people may refuse to acknowledge it, though.

Detonator · « **Reply #344 on:** May 26, 2010, 09:24:09 PM »

In fact, the very first panel of the very first page shows a huge puddle of blood left by the Comedian's corpse.

Zaratustra · « **Reply #345 on:** August 02, 2010, 08:30:29 AM »

So I was sketching DC's sequel to Watchmen on my head.

Basically it'd be a 6-issue series with tie-ins where Ozymandias takes over the world but halfway through the true evil is revealed - BUBASTIS! She is back with Dr. Manhattan powers. Dr. Manhattan comes back from space to fight her and it's really epic yeah.

The heroes have to find Rorschach's notebook which is the key to reviving him because he always knew he'd be dead. The Comedian is revived somehow too but he's evil.

The comic ends with basically everyone as they were before the very first issue of Watchmen, before the Comedian died. What crazy antics will these guys get into? Only time will tell!

Lottel · « **Reply #346 on:** August 02, 2010, 08:44:45 AM »

Rorschach wasn't murdered. He was actually blown apart in the same way as Manhattan. Manhattan did it so that Rorschach would understand what he is doing. When he reforms though, he takes a different turn. He decides everyone is guilty and his hate grows.
He builds a fake Comedian, because he wanted the gang back together.

Büge · « **Reply #347 on:** August 02, 2010, 08:47:57 AM »

Bubastis would end up looking like Krystal from StarFox to draw in the furry crowd.

Lottel · « **Reply #348 on:** August 02, 2010, 08:54:28 AM »

Boobastis!

teg · « **Reply #349 on:** August 02, 2010, 02:11:19 PM »

http://watchmex.wikia.com/wiki/WatchmeX_Time_Line

My favourite bit is the Clone Saga, which involves a bunch of stand-ins for Rorschach. The best one is the corporate-sponsored "Radioschach".

Zaratustra · « **Reply #350 on:** August 02, 2010, 03:42:10 PM »

Holy crap I swear I had never heard of that.

Mongrel · « **Reply #351 on:** August 02, 2010, 04:08:43 PM »

My favourite part is 'Bubastis as drawn by Rob Liefeld'

teg · « **Reply #352 on:** August 03, 2010, 03:15:12 PM »

Quote from: Zaratustra on August 02, 2010, 03:42:10 PM

Holy crap I swear I had never heard of that.

/co/ started the whole mythos to scare off all the people who had only seen the movie and completely missed the point.

Thad · « **Reply #353 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:12:55 AM »

Welp, the goddamn prequels are happening.

On the one hand, this is a fundamentally stupid and creatively bankrupt idea.

On the other...well, okay, I can see the appeal of a Cooke/Conner Silk Spectre.

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #354 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:37:33 AM »

If this series leads to a renaissance of pirate comics, I am for it.

Thad · « **Reply #355 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:46:03 AM »

Unfortunately I think all this proves is that people are only interested in pirate comics if they're also Watchmen comics.

Büge · « **Reply #356 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:54:02 AM »

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffasdffafsdasf

they're completely redundant.... but they have such amazing teams working on them! There's a book that pulled Adam Hughes out of retirement and... and...

what the hell is Jon doing to Laurie?

[THAD EDIT to remove embedded image. This is why BC blocked external embedding and fucked up their RSS feed for months. Don't do it; mirror that shit.]

Thad · « **Reply #357 on:** February 01, 2012, 01:11:43 PM »

Guess we're probably all on the same page in these parts -- yes it's a dumb idea, but yes those are some good creative teams so the comics might be good anyway.

The argument that's already started spreading like Stupid Disease is that it's wrong for Moore to criticize other people being derivative when he's done stuff like Lost Girls and LoEG.

This argument is, of course, stupid, as there is a rather fundamental difference between drawing from the public domain to examine cultural icons and basing your entire fucking business around trying to repeat Watchmen over and over and over for 25 years.

Bal · « **Reply #358 on:** February 01, 2012, 02:09:54 PM »

I thought Watchmen was already a prequel to Watchmen. Knowing any more about the characters would almost certainly ruin them.

Are they so creatively bankrupt at this point that they're not content just trying to emulate Watchmen for 25 years, they now have to straight up just make more Watchmen? God, come up with new ideas.

Ziiro · « **Reply #359 on:** February 01, 2012, 02:16:48 PM »

What's the phrase you'd use for "Rolling in their grave" but for people who are still alive?

Because I'm pretty sure that's how I'd describe Alan Moore.

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