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[Da_Beerman]

Man, if you like side missions, I hope you like switching discs like it's 1997.

is it the same for the retail PC version? or is there three discs with one containing an Origin installer?

swapping discs did make me notice that the regular edition of the game has an alternative cover on the flipside.

I found subquest with Kaylee Sanders from the first mass effect book, I knew some good would come out of reading that thing.

[Classic]

Wait, I thought the mass effect novels were awful? I thought most BioWare IP books were awful?

[Da_Beerman]

Wait, I thought the mass effect novels were awful? I thought most BioWare IP books were awful?

I guess I didn't get the memo.

[Classic]

If you tell me they're good, I'll take your word for it.

But these chuckle heads felt it was so bad it deserved commentary.
http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/02/03

EDIT:
O Shit! I'm level 3! Maybe I want to multiclass? Do you guys think I should multiclass?

[TA]

Who likes endgame spoilers?  When they're this fucking terrible, I sure do!

[Da_Beerman]

If you tell me they're good, I'll take your word for it.

But these chuckle heads felt it was so bad it deserved commentary.
http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/02/03

EDIT:
O Shit! I'm level 3! Maybe I want to multiclass? Do you guys think I should multiclass?

The first two books where written by Drew Karpyshyn who was the lead writer of KOTOR and Mass Effect 1 and a co-writer on Mass Effect 2, the third book was not written by him but rather by an outsider and you can tell because of the much criticized inconsistencies (Drew left Bioware sometime a few months ago).

The book isn't exceptional or anything but it's more compelling than reading codex entries for exposition. Edit: heh I wouldn't say it was "a volley of Satanic aggression toward the reader" but I did only read it in preparation for the third game after losing interest the first time I tried to read it. in short it's a medicore book that serves it's purpose for extra world building I'm not rushing out to read more.

Anyone get attacked by reapers while planet scanning yet?

[Zaratustra]

Who likes endgame spoilers?  When they're this fucking terrible, I sure do!

[spoiler]Man is THAT what Tali looks like? That's... underwhelming.[/spoiler]

[TA]

Who likes endgame spoilers?  When they're this fucking terrible, I sure do!

[spoiler]Man is THAT what Tali looks like? That's... underwhelming.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Well, yeah, it's underwhelming.  Because it's just a bad photoshop of a stock photo.[/spoiler]

[Thad]

The book isn't exceptional or anything but it's more compelling than reading codex entries for exposition.

Gotta be better than the comics, right?

[Ziiro]

Having read most of the codex entries in 1 and 2 I'm pretty good with reading them for my exposition anymore. I wish I had them in book form though, that'd be kind of cool. Mass Effect reference manual. Contains sections on 1, 2, and 3. (You know, because they had to change things)


Hm. Might be worth printing and doing.

Additional note: If you have the time, the Cerberus daily news archives is an insane amount of info and flavor

[Disposable Ninja]

[spoiler]The Reapers are basically Anti-Spirals from Gurren Lagann[/spoiler]

... Eh, it's not like they could have been much else. I mean, the similarities were pretty much established in the first game, really.

[spoiler]Some of the endings are sort of like the endings in Deus Ex[/spoiler]

That all seems so generalized and so taken out of context that you could compare them to My Little Pony.

[spoiler]This is what Tali actually looks like[/spoiler]

What the fuck?

[spoiler]Tali kills herself[/spoiler]

WHAT THE FUCK

[TA]

[spoiler]The Reapers are basically Anti-Spirals from Gurren Lagann[/spoiler]

... Eh, it's not like they could have been much else. I mean, the similarities were pretty much established in the first game, really.

Actually, [spoiler]as recently as when ME2 was written and developed, that was not their motivation.  Their motivation was in fact entirely different.  Specifically, and quoting, when ME2 was written, it was with the expectation that the plot twist of ME3 would be "that dark energy is destroying the universe (the "premature aging" of Haestrom in ME2 is because the compressive force of gravity is no longer balancing the explosive force of fusion), and the Reapers are trying to stop it. They absorb some races because - despite millions of years of computer-speed thinking on the outskirts of the galaxy - they still haven't figured out how, so they need fresh perspectives.  So the Reapers were secretly good guys trying to end the threat of dark energy by scattering dark energy based artifacts all over the galaxy for young races to find, reverse engineer, and use. In hopes that they find a species who can fix the problem they've spend 37+ million years thinking about."  So, yeah, could very much have been quite a bit else.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Tali kills herself[/spoiler]

WHAT THE FUCK

[spoiler]She joins the Flotilla for a suicide attack on the Reapers and/or Geth.  But only if she is your waifu.  Otherwise, she hooks up with Garrus and lives happily ever after.[/spoiler]

[Disposable Ninja]

[spoiler]The Reapers are basically Anti-Spirals from Gurren Lagann[/spoiler]

... Eh, it's not like they could have been much else. I mean, the similarities were pretty much established in the first game, really.

Actually, [spoiler]as recently as when ME2 was written and developed, that was not their motivation.  Their motivation was in fact entirely different.  Specifically, and quoting, when ME2 was written, it was with the expectation that the plot twist of ME3 would be "that dark energy is destroying the universe (the "premature aging" of Haestrom in ME2 is because the compressive force of gravity is no longer balancing the explosive force of fusion), and the Reapers are trying to stop it. They absorb some races because - despite millions of years of computer-speed thinking on the outskirts of the galaxy - they still haven't figured out how, so they need fresh perspectives.  So the Reapers were secretly good guys trying to end the threat of dark energy by scattering dark energy based artifacts all over the galaxy for young races to find, reverse engineer, and use. In hopes that they find a species who can fix the problem they've spend 37+ million years thinking about."  So, yeah, could very much have been quite a bit else.[/spoiler]

Yeah but that's kind of stupid, honestly, and doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. And the theme isn't that different: [spoiler]the Reapers are still acting out of interest in the overall well-being of existence.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Tali kills herself[/spoiler]

WHAT THE FUCK

[spoiler]She joins the Flotilla for a suicide attack on the Reapers and/or Geth.  But only if she is your waifu.  Otherwise, she hooks up with Garrus and lives happily ever after.[/spoiler]

... I have no words. I mean... Fuck. There goes the one reason I would ever want to play a male Shepard, I guess. [spoiler]Also what happens to Tali if you romance Garrus with your FemShep?[/spoiler]

[TA]

Yeah but that's kind of stupid, honestly, and doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. And the theme isn't that different: [spoiler]the Reapers are still acting out of interest in the overall well-being of existence.[/spoiler]

Yeah, but with it as it is, that's not the case.  In actual ME3, it's this.

[Disposable Ninja]

True, there are... [spoiler]holes in the Reaper's plan, but at least it actually makes sense: presumably the Spiral Synthetics would wipe out all organic life both advanced and primitive. The Reapers' plan to only destroy the sufficiently advanced civilizations and preserve their genetic information within themselves at least has some sort of logic behind it, even if it is a bit self-defeating.

The original motivation seems way more stupid; "Let's slaughter this less-advanced galactic civilization that had developed technologically according to the guidelines we laid down hundreds of thousands of years ago so that we can absorb all the information they possessed that we already knew so that we can figure out how to stop the universe from collapsing.

"... Even though it would make infinitely more sense to work with the galactic civilizations."[/spoiler]

Anyway, none of that is enough to get me riled. What does get me irate, though, is that none of the squad members introduced in ME2 are recruitable in ME3, but five of the possible returning characters were all from ME1 and none of them are Wrex.

[Bongo Bill]

I'm enjoying this game so far. I wonder if, once I'm done, I'll ever come back and read all those spoilers you guys posted.

[Ziiro]

Little does everyone know, the entire game hinges on getting that one trinket from Sha'ira the consort in Mass Effect 1. You know, the one that gives you that vision on that planet that nobody ever visits and you have to actually stumble across it while having the trinket.

I actually wish I knew if that was in the save of my current Shepard. Fuck.

There's so many variables and carry overs between all three games that it is actually going to drive me nuts to learn about them all. I figure I need to just beat ME3 then read the wiki religiously.

[Beat Bandit]

This is exactly the reason why I bothered 1) playing ME 1 again since having have played 2 ever 2) went to more than three planets while replaying it.

[TA]

Little does everyone know, the entire game hinges on getting that one trinket from Sha'ira the consort in Mass Effect 1. You know, the one that gives you that vision on that planet that nobody ever visits and you have to actually stumble across it while having the trinket.

I actually wish I knew if that was in the save of my current Shepard. Fuck.

There's so many variables and carry overs between all three games that it is actually going to drive me nuts to learn about them all. I figure I need to just beat ME3 then read the wiki religiously.

Can you go into more detail about this, as to how exactly it's a huge deal?

[Ziiro]

That was a joke.