Topic: Make Up New Unlockables! (Read 59369 times)

Zaratustra · « **Reply #160 on:** March 12, 2009, 11:08:50 AM »

did I post here the spy unlock pistol that makes the target hit see everyone as spies

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #161 on:** March 12, 2009, 11:13:50 AM »

Goes hand-in-hand with the knife replacement that turns enemies into engineers, really.

Koah · « **Reply #162 on:** March 12, 2009, 11:23:20 AM »

Or we could combine all three for a new class: Spygineers. They can build dispensers that backstab people who use them, sentry guns that shoot people on the team they're supposed to belong to when nobody's looking and teleporters that randomly dump teammates on the other side of the map.

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #163 on:** March 12, 2009, 11:28:33 AM »

Fake buildings! That's brilliant.

In the spirit of really annoying unlockables like the Sandman, how about a Demoman unlockable: a huge bomb which, if detonated, blasts everyone within range to 2fort.

Koah · « **Reply #164 on:** March 12, 2009, 12:44:31 PM »

If used on 2fort, it instead blasts them to hydro.

Brentai · « **Reply #165 on:** March 12, 2009, 12:51:49 PM »

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #166 on:** March 12, 2009, 02:04:47 PM »

Spy
Min-EMP Bomb
Temporarily disables all Sentries within an X radius for X seconds.

Mongrel · « **Reply #167 on:** March 12, 2009, 03:42:39 PM »

Five-second serious note:

Giving spies any help against engineers and vice versa is very difficult thing to do. The two sides are currently (mostly) in balance. Tipping that balance even a little could lead to one hell of a degenerate state.

The thing to remember is this. Sentries are a rock to break an enemy team on. They also affect gameplay by providing endless ways to alter the character of maps. They also take a while to build. Sapping is far from reliable, but is much quicker - and comes with a big payoff. It's asymmetric balance. The Engineeer needs to win most but certainly not all of the time.

All I know is that if engineers ever reach a point where they don't fear spies or if spies reach a point where they can reliably sap (even say, 33% of the time)*, then the losing class will become nigh-unplayable.

*Assuming equal skill and circumstances of course.

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #168 on:** March 12, 2009, 04:41:28 PM »

The idea would be to give spies and engineers different, but not necessarily more effective, ways to antagonize each other. I think, if anything, we'd all benefit from seeing the basic means of conflict resolution be shaken up a bit: right now it is essentially the randomness of "Will the engineer score a critical hit with his wrench before the spy's attack registers as a backstab?" You wouldn't want to mess with many things that cause the inevitable fights to occur, but you might want to change the tricks that can be pulled to make it more interesting.

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #169 on:** March 12, 2009, 04:48:45 PM »

Spy
Cardboard Sentry

Kazz · « **Reply #170 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:48:38 PM »

imagine those fingers piercing through the forehead so hard that the brain is damaged and i am killed

Mongrel · « **Reply #171 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:57:32 PM »

Actually I think some iteration of fake buildings could be interesting. The funnyiest part is that there's actually a couple of classes it could work with.

I think the idea's a little too boring for it to have any real chance at implementation though. There's just so many cooler things you can make for unlockables.

MadMAxJr · « **Reply #172 on:** March 12, 2009, 08:41:08 PM »

Zap Gun - Replaces Engy Shotgun.

20 shots, sniper rifle speed delay between shots
low damage
on hit, targets non-melee weapons have a 15 degree cone of random inaccuracy added onto their shots for five seconds.

Kazz · « **Reply #173 on:** March 12, 2009, 09:04:53 PM »

So a spy can start backstabbing people behind himself?!

My god, that's terrifying!

Brentai · « **Reply #174 on:** March 12, 2009, 09:24:18 PM »

Quote from: MadMAxJr on March 12, 2009, 08:41:08 PM

non-melee

Unless he edited it, that fink.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #175 on:** March 13, 2009, 07:42:56 AM »

Dart Gun
Loaded with a powerful hallucinogen, players struck by a dart from the Spy's newest weapon begin to see enemies, weapons, and even health packs that aren't there for up to 10 seconds.

Bowie Knife
Unable to crit from backstabs, but can be thrown for additional damage.

Mongrel · « **Reply #176 on:** March 13, 2009, 03:20:30 PM »

Quote from: Constantine on March 13, 2009, 07:42:56 AM

Dart Gun
Loaded with a powerful hallucinogen, players struck by a dart from the Spy's newest weapon begin to see enemies, weapons, and even health packs that aren't there for up to 10 seconds.

~~Bowie Knife~~ Stiletto (or possibly Pugnale/Puñal)
Unable to crit from backstabs, but can be thrown for additional damage.

Mongrel · « **Reply #177 on:** March 13, 2009, 03:21:30 PM »

Quote from: Iron_Mongrel on March 13, 2009, 03:20:30 PM

Quote from: Constantine on March 13, 2009, 07:42:56 AM
Dart Gun
Loaded with a powerful hallucinogen, players struck by a dart from the Spy's newest weapon begin to see enemies, weapons, and even health packs that aren't there for up to 10 seconds.

~~Bowie Knife~~ Stiletto (or possibly Pugnale/Puñal)
Unable to crit from backstabs, but can be thrown for additional damage.

I CUT CHOO CHOLO

Detonator · « **Reply #178 on:** March 13, 2009, 03:35:47 PM »

Quote from: Constantine on March 13, 2009, 07:42:56 AM

Bowie Knife
Unable to crit from backstabs

Why would you even be a spy.

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #179 on:** March 13, 2009, 03:49:25 PM »

Spy
Rapier
Ha-HA!

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