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Author Topic: Make Up New Unlockables!  (Read 59258 times)

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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #180 on: March 13, 2009, 03:51:24 PM »

Instead of making it so you get no crits from behind, instead make it so the backstabbing range is narrower.

Alternatively, a weapon that does no damage unless it's a backstab.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #181 on: March 13, 2009, 04:29:54 PM »

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Alternatively, a weapon that does no damage unless it's a backstab.

So.. the current knife?
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #182 on: March 14, 2009, 04:02:25 AM »

A weapon that only gets crits from the side.

The left side.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #183 on: March 14, 2009, 10:30:38 AM »

L'il Misanthropist
Same as the regular knife, except that it only crits on facestabs.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #184 on: March 14, 2009, 12:11:12 PM »

Kuribo's Shoe
Autokill when you jump on an enemy's head.

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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #185 on: March 14, 2009, 12:19:47 PM »

soldier unlock : Iron Boots

replaces shotgun, prevents damage to the soldier when rocket jumping.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #186 on: March 14, 2009, 12:28:21 PM »

SCOUT
Advantage: Can stun people, sending them into a blind rage incapable of doing anything other than screaming
Disadvantage: Might as well be wearing wet cardboard for armor, can be killed by any person that does not succumb to the blind rage of the advantage
Neutral: Will not kill your dog.

Blinding flash: Wow... an attack dog would be a retardedly cool unlockable.

I don't know for who, but that would be the nuts.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #187 on: March 14, 2009, 12:30:09 PM »

Thematically most appropriate for Engineer. Be crazy for Medic, though.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #188 on: March 14, 2009, 01:05:02 PM »

Engineer and/or Sniper.  Two easily distracted down-to-Earth schmoes that need something to look out for people coming up behind them.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #189 on: March 14, 2009, 01:49:51 PM »

Robot dog for the win.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #190 on: March 14, 2009, 01:58:17 PM »

Yeah, it'd basically be a melee-only bot with (I dunno) medic speed. Low-to-moderate damage. Speed could be anywhere from Medic speed to Scout speed and HP could be anywhere from 75 to 150. It focuses on protecting you and sniffing out nearby enemies. 

I actually kept getting a mental image of the Sniper with a dingo or a german shepherd when the idea first game to me.

If Sniper was to get it, I'd take away his machine pistol, but I would also give it some other downside(s), since that's not really a downside at all. If Engie was to get it, I'd just take away his shotgun, because that's actually pretty huge to lose. On the other hand, if it can sniff spies, I'd think about taking away the pistol too.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #191 on: March 14, 2009, 02:04:33 PM »

Interceptor - Homes onto a nearby enemy and slows him for a few seconds while dealing damage. The sniper can then cap his head off.

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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #192 on: March 14, 2009, 02:08:25 PM »

As great as this idea is, I am opposed to a gameplay feature that revolves around shooting a cartoon dog.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #193 on: March 14, 2009, 02:09:42 PM »

If it's a robot dog then this problem vanishes.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #194 on: March 14, 2009, 02:32:34 PM »

As great as this idea is, I am opposed to a gameplay feature that revolves around shooting a cartoon dog.

Two words.  First one is "Duck".
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #195 on: March 15, 2009, 03:24:24 AM »

RABBIT SEASON.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #196 on: April 03, 2009, 12:10:39 PM »

re Sniper Update

I kind of like the idea of a sniper rifle that's exactly the same, but with no scope at all.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #197 on: April 03, 2009, 12:15:43 PM »

M1 Garand.  It's capable of five shots quickly together, and then makes a /wonderful/ ping sound as the clip hits the end.  Extended reload time, does not charge like regular rifle.

While it has no scope, iron sights do work nicely.  Minor zoom on right click and instead of blacking out the edges, blur them out severely.

Melee should be sticking the bayonet on the end.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #198 on: April 03, 2009, 12:53:38 PM »

Not really an unlockable, but would be the best thing ever.

If a sniper shoots an enemy sniper who is mid sniper rifle taunt in the hand, he survives but can't use any weapons and has a 50% speed decrease until he reaches the main resupply point.

I think that would just be a totally awesome slap in the face.
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Re: Make Up New Unlockables!
« Reply #199 on: April 03, 2009, 01:18:39 PM »

All the weapons in TF2 (except for the Sandman) have been designed so that differences in competence rarely translate to insurmountable differences in effectiveness. In the case of the Sniper Rifle, you've got one weapon that can lead to huge differences in effectiveness in the hands of freakishly-skilled players versus ordinary players. The relatively hard task of aiming quickly and accurately to produce the high reward of an instant kill is tempered considerably by a harsh limit on the rate of fire and making the user extremely vulnerable before an attack.

In order to keep a sniper rifle replacement balanced along these lines, it is important to make sure that the headshots cannot come any more often than they do now. Compensating for them by making them harder to get will not be effective, as there will be players who are skilled enough to get them anyway, and then the rest of us will end up being sniped all the time.

It is more likely that the replacement rifle will have less firepower, or lack the ability to score headshots, or something that results in less raw killing power, but has additional effects. Something like Natascha for snipers has been suggested in the past.
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