Topic: Movies for Home Viewing (Read 77255 times)

Burrito Al Pastor · « **Reply #600 on:** February 08, 2011, 08:10:34 AM »

Which version did you see?

Also: (almost) all of that movie's soundtrack is excellent, stop disliking things that I like.

Mongrel · « **Reply #601 on:** February 08, 2011, 08:12:10 AM »

Well, in fairness, there's been more Director's Cuts and re-release edits of Blade Runner than George Lucas could shake a lightsaber at, with each successive version hinting more and more strongly that Deckard is a Replicant.

But without anybody ever coming out and saying it, so you still don't know anyway.

So, it could depend on which of the umpty-ump different versions you saw. Sort-of.

EDIT: While you were typing... a BURRITO posted!

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #602 on:** February 08, 2011, 08:20:46 AM »

I watched the "Final Cut" on DVD, the one with Ridley Scott on commentary. So, pretty sure it's the most up-to-date version barring Blu-Ray.

And all I saw that really implied that Deckard was a Replicant was Rachael asking Deckard if he ever did the Voight-Kampff test himself. Also maybe some hints dropped by that Origami guy, I'm not sure.

Mongrel · « **Reply #603 on:** February 08, 2011, 08:33:30 AM »

That question may have been in earlier editions, but it's been so long since I've seen it that I can't really remember.

Beat Bandit · « **Reply #604 on:** February 08, 2011, 08:42:47 AM »

I actually saw it for the first time on final cut myself (or whatever the most recent one was just three or four years back) and yeah, most of the symbolism was lost until I saw the theater version and what got added in after.

Hint: apparently you figure out he's a replicant when he has that twenty minute dream about a unicorn.

Friday · « **Reply #605 on:** February 08, 2011, 09:12:33 AM »

I love Blade Runner the same way I love Silent Hill 2: It's a mediocre movie/game and an amazing atmospheric experience.

Also, I agree about the Deckard being a replicant thing, I never really went for it. Sure, he could have implanted memories or whatever, but then they'd have to hire a fucking fake police chief to pretend Deckard had a job and god so much else that wouldn't make any sense

Classic · « **Reply #606 on:** February 08, 2011, 09:55:55 AM »

Not all replicants have a shelf life that short.

Apparently, if you read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, the Philip K. Dick that Blade Runner draws inspiration from, there's also no question about Deckard's humanity.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #607 on:** February 08, 2011, 09:58:09 AM »

Quote from: Mongrel on February 08, 2011, 08:12:10 AM

But without anybody ever coming out and saying it, so you still don't know anyway.

Except for that time he did

It's hinted pretty strong that Deckard is a replicant, and the other people on the force know he is (hence why the partner leaves the origami unicorn on his front stoop). By being a replicant, it adds another level of irony to the film, in that Deckard is as much a tool as the replicants he hunts. It's subtle, and a bit more complex than I make it, but I kind of like it. I've only ever seen the Director's Cut, though, and not any of the others.

Thad · « **Reply #608 on:** February 08, 2011, 10:57:44 AM »

Quote from: Classic on February 08, 2011, 09:55:55 AM

Apparently, if you read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, the Philip K. Dick that Blade Runner draws inspiration from, there's also no question about Deckard's humanity.

Philip K Dick's oeuvre is pretty much nothing BUT questions about his protagonists' humanity.

My recollection of the book is that a partner character DOES cause Deckard to doubt his humanity but eventually he takes the test and passes.

Per the movie: I never saw the theatrical cut but my understanding is they don't broach any questions of Deckard's humanity. Director's Cut adds the unicorn dream and the "Have you ever taken the test?" question but never resolves it; Final Cut adds the origami unicorn, which I think is pretty unambiguous.

Smiler · « **Reply #609 on:** February 18, 2011, 02:34:26 AM »

So I am watching Robocop 2, and Robocop is beating the hell out of a crooked cop by slamming him repeatedly into a Bad Dudes arcade cabinet.

Lottel · « **Reply #610 on:** February 18, 2011, 02:39:34 AM »

ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO RESCU- Wait. That doesn't really fit.

teg · « **Reply #611 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:05:14 AM »

All-Star Superman is one of those things that's decent at first glance, but full of really stupid or pointless moments.

Also, Lex Luthor is comically dumb. Like "angry high school student" dumb. Despite being an inventor, an engineer, a geneticist, etc; everything he does is full of logical fallacies and a complete inability to notice the obvious. Probably the funniest bit is a prison sequence where Clark uses all of his Superman powers to save his life repeatedly while he continues his monologue without even noticing what's going on.

TA · « **Reply #612 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:11:49 AM »

Basically every time Leo Quintum is talking or being talked to or on panel, the narrative grinds to a halt while we get to watch Grant Morrison masturbate for a while.

I like Grant Morrison when he's doing a story but that's just him getting sidetracked.

Büge · « **Reply #613 on:** February 19, 2011, 04:31:54 AM »

Did he at least take a moment to redraw his eyebrow on, like in the comic?

Norondor · « **Reply #614 on:** February 19, 2011, 05:56:04 AM »

Quote from: ★ on February 19, 2011, 01:05:14 AM

Also, Lex Luthor is comically dumb. Like "angry high school student" dumb.

That is entirely in keeping with his personality as depicted over the decades. Doctor Doom he ain't.

My major complaint with it, actually, was that the art looked atrocious. I LOVE Frank Quitely, but the inks and colors were just gross.

Thad · « **Reply #615 on:** February 19, 2011, 08:18:28 AM »

Quote from: Norondor on February 19, 2011, 05:56:04 AM

That is entirely in keeping with his personality as depicted over the decades. Doctor Doom he ain't.

I've said it before, but I LOVE how Cornell's given him this "so self-absorbed he doesn't understand jokes" thing.

Quote from: Norondor on February 19, 2011, 05:56:04 AM

My major complaint with it, actually, was that the art looked atrocious. I LOVE Frank Quitely, but the inks and colors were just gross.

Wow, going to have to disagree quite strongly on that one. I frequently point to it as an example of some of the best coloring I've seen in the past decade.

François · « **Reply #616 on:** February 19, 2011, 08:51:38 AM »

Quote from: ★ on February 19, 2011, 01:05:14 AM

Also, Lex Luthor is comically dumb. Like "angry high school student" dumb. Despite being an inventor, an engineer, a geneticist, etc; everything he does is full of logical fallacies and a complete inability to notice the obvious.

What is he even going to do with these forty cakes?

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #617 on:** February 19, 2011, 08:54:34 AM »

In his younger days Lex would go by his nickname, "Curly".

Büge · « **Reply #618 on:** February 19, 2011, 12:10:09 PM »

I agree with Norondor. Quitely is good at creating a 'frozen-in-time' tableau, but every person appears to be stuffed with cottage cheese.

Norondor · « **Reply #619 on:** February 19, 2011, 12:18:39 PM »

that style actually made his action scenes in B&R and Flex Mentallo look totally fucking awesome.

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