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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #840 on: April 25, 2010, 04:12:35 AM »

Only server (Well, a chick came and took a table, but whatever). Everyone was happy.  Made $80 some in credit card tips alone. 
Tomorrow night will be a snap. I bet the boss I can wait the whole dining room and help cook outside of rush. $25 is on the line. He already said the girls' hours are docked.

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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #841 on: April 25, 2010, 11:18:48 AM »

Masterfully played, sir.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #842 on: April 25, 2010, 07:45:57 PM »

Guess who is an extra 25 bucks richer?
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #843 on: April 26, 2010, 03:12:01 PM »

Is it me?
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #844 on: April 27, 2010, 07:01:23 AM »

Lottel is the god of waiters.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #845 on: April 27, 2010, 07:02:10 AM »

He's Hermes.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #846 on: April 27, 2010, 10:10:49 AM »

hey look the man can't help how he's bor-

oh Hermes! my bad.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #847 on: April 27, 2010, 11:02:57 AM »

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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #848 on: April 27, 2010, 12:26:21 PM »

Promoting people is hard! Or at least, I chose a bad way to do it.

I need to select two people to promote to a position that, while it pays no more than their current position, provides more hours per week. I figured there'd be a pretty low response rate, so at the end of training today I just asked who would be willing to work more hours. I had eight people come up to me, all promising they can work 40 hours a week, any time, any day. This is obviously bullshit, but since I don't know anyone's particular schedules, I can't really call anyone out on it.

This puts me in an awkward spot (at least in my head). The two I would consider most qualified based off what I've seen so far are guys, and I feel like giving them both the position may make the women in training assume I chose them based off that, and since everyone seemed to want as many hours as they could get, I don't even have the "well, he was available more" cushion to fall back on.

I have no problem firing people or chastising because if I do, they did something to deserve it. Still, I have trouble telling people "well yeah, you're okay, but from what I've seen this guy is much more okay."
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #849 on: April 27, 2010, 12:28:45 PM »

Lottel is the god of waiters.

I have this suspicious feeling that there's already a shonen manga about waiters....
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #850 on: April 27, 2010, 12:49:33 PM »

Promoting people is hard! Or at least, I chose a bad way to do it.

I need to select two people to promote to a position that, while it pays no more than their current position, provides more hours per week. I figured there'd be a pretty low response rate, so at the end of training today I just asked who would be willing to work more hours. I had eight people come up to me, all promising they can work 40 hours a week, any time, any day. This is obviously bullshit, but since I don't know anyone's particular schedules, I can't really call anyone out on it.

This puts me in an awkward spot (at least in my head). The two I would consider most qualified based off what I've seen so far are guys, and I feel like giving them both the position may make the women in training assume I chose them based off that, and since everyone seemed to want as many hours as they could get, I don't even have the "well, he was available more" cushion to fall back on.

I have no problem firing people or chastising because if I do, they did something to deserve it. Still, I have trouble telling people "well yeah, you're okay, but from what I've seen this guy is much more okay."

Specific examples of why they're "more okay" (that have nothing to do with their personality), give the also-rans something to look at to emulate and help dispel notions of favouritism for dumb reasons like "He has a wang". What you do is give the job to the two who deserve it and if someone is upset, then you use those reasons to quietly explain why to anyone who may bring it up with you.

You may also choose to announce those reasons up front, but that's more of a "management style" call. Some people prefer to be low key about that kind of thing (announcing the promotions, full stop and only giving the whys and wherefores if pressed), some prefer to make a bit of an announcement that "so-and-so got it because their excellent work with whatever" to everyone. It kind of depends on workplace dynamic too.

One thing though: the low-key version only works if you're the kind of boss who is considered approachable. Otherwise, the also-rans will grumble to someone they shouldn't or will just stew.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #851 on: April 27, 2010, 01:27:57 PM »

The great part that I left out because I'm dumb is that I've basically been reading to these people for two days. That's all I know of them.

The main office requires me pick two before tomorrow's training and I have how they've answered the 1-2 questions I've had time to throw at them to judge with. It would be a little easier if I at least got to see them in the field first.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #852 on: April 27, 2010, 02:14:12 PM »

Lottel is the god of waiters.
I made almost $400 in tips alone this weekend, gained a few regulars, and showed I am the best there. Without breaking a sweat or losing a smile. I work Wednesday and Thursday. Girls are getting their turn this weekend. The boss is scared. They don't want to do things alone.  Too much work for the two of them.
I casually reminded the boss that I did it easily by myself. He got an odd smile.
Then I put on sunglasses and rode off into the night.*

Promoting people is hard! Or at least, I chose a bad way to do it.

I need to select two people to promote to a position that, while it pays no more than their current position, provides more hours per week. I figured there'd be a pretty low response rate, so at the end of training today I just asked who would be willing to work more hours. I had eight people come up to me, all promising they can work 40 hours a week, any time, any day. This is obviously bullshit, but since I don't know anyone's particular schedules, I can't really call anyone out on it.

This puts me in an awkward spot (at least in my head). The two I would consider most qualified based off what I've seen so far are guys, and I feel like giving them both the position may make the women in training assume I chose them based off that, and since everyone seemed to want as many hours as they could get, I don't even have the "well, he was available more" cushion to fall back on.

I have no problem firing people or chastising because if I do, they did something to deserve it. Still, I have trouble telling people "well yeah, you're okay, but from what I've seen this guy is much more okay."

What I see wrong here is the fact that the sex of the workers is coming into play for promotions. You chose the two you felt were best for the job. Just because they both happen to be dudes is not fault of your own or theirs. Give them the job. It's wrong to deny them the job because of a hypothetical situation with a hypothetical female.
If something comes up, just tell the complainer you felt the two were best qualified based on the data you had at the time.



*The putting on of sunglasses may or may not have happened. Historians can't agree.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #853 on: April 27, 2010, 03:50:47 PM »

The best part is how you made enough in tips alone to not really care if you work this weekend or not. :suave:
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #854 on: April 27, 2010, 09:48:32 PM »

Rygaron, the only suggestion I can give you about promoting is to be SURE that you let everyone know you promoted the 'most qualified'. EVEN IF (more so, actually) you pulled that term completely out of your ass.

You will want to talk to everyone who responded personally and tell them you're sorry they didn't get the responsibility (never say job, if you make it sound like more work, not just different work, or better work, its harder for people to feel passed over) but that should something open up in the future, you'll consider them for it.

Also, you have a cloud of anonymity to hide behind about WHY you promoted someone, should you need to, because (I'm sure you know this but I'm just making sure) you should NEVER be discussing other people's qualifications or lack thereof with another associate.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #855 on: April 28, 2010, 08:32:40 AM »

Turns out there was another page of responses to Rygaron I missed. So nvm, what everyone else said.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #856 on: April 28, 2010, 12:07:28 PM »

Rygaron, are you a team leader for the Census? Sounds an awful lot like it.

I just started training with them on Tuesday, so look forward to stories of encounters with crazies in the next few weeks.

I had a few interviews lately with some other jobs that I was pretty sure I was going to get, but no one has called me back as of yet. Pretty frustrating when you get called in for second and third-round interviews and they don't even bother to tell you the outcome. It seems like since employers are currently inundated with applicants because of the crappy job market, they think they can treat them without any semblance of courtesy or decency.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #857 on: April 28, 2010, 12:15:21 PM »

Rygaron, are you a team leader for the Census? Sounds an awful lot like it.

I just started training with them on Tuesday, so look forward to stories of encounters with crazies in the next few weeks.

I had a few interviews lately with some other jobs that I was pretty sure I was going to get, but no one has called me back as of yet. Pretty frustrating when you get called in for second and third-round interviews and they don't even bother to tell you the outcome. It seems like since employers are currently inundated with applicants because of the crappy job market, they think they can treat them without any semblance of courtesy or decency.

They can and will in most cases. Sucks, but that's how it is.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #858 on: April 28, 2010, 12:18:13 PM »

Yeah, that's the way it goes these days. Recession or no.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #859 on: April 28, 2010, 05:09:58 PM »

I also starting training with the Census to be an enumerator on Tuesday. I doubt I'll have many complaints about the job itself, and look forward to the stories I can tell... if every single place I visit isn't a foreclosed home anyway.

While being bored in the training listening to them go over occasionally helpful bits but mostly really really really obvious information kind of sucks, I can think of worse things to be doing for 14 bucks an hour other than sitting on my ass!
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