Topic: Your Job: The Movie (Read 182322 times)

Shinra · « **Reply #1460 on:** January 19, 2011, 08:52:15 PM »

Quote from: Mongrel on January 19, 2011, 07:53:53 PM

One other thing. One of the employees, not meaning anything, offhandedly mentioned that they had some previous recruits who "didn't make it" because they'd had a close death in their family during training (the implication being that because they had to take bereavement during training, the company simply dropped them?)

Uh, I guess it's a good thing I didn't mention my grandma or ask for any time off*.

*_{This is not because I'm some kind of callous monster - I hope - but because I'm pretty sure my grandma would have thought it was just silly for me to take off work for it. My grandparents are/were incredibly practical people, which I will always treasure.}

i uh

i didn't think that was legal in Canada. I know it's not in the states.

Norondor · « **Reply #1461 on:** January 19, 2011, 09:03:00 PM »

Quote from: Friday on January 19, 2011, 06:24:21 PM

I am concerned about you.

i'll live.

and i try not to say that lightly.

Thad · « **Reply #1462 on:** January 19, 2011, 11:26:32 PM »

Quote from: Shinra on January 19, 2011, 08:52:15 PM

i didn't think that was legal in Canada. I know it's not in the states.

I doubt "took time off for bereavement" was the reason they gave on the paperwork.

Joxam · « **Reply #1463 on:** January 20, 2011, 10:24:50 AM »

I was under the impression that an At Will employer could practically fire you for anything during you probationary phase and nearly anything afterwards? And as far as I know bereavement leave is not covered under any of the federal acts that define the exceptions to at-will employment. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.

Shinra · « **Reply #1464 on:** January 20, 2011, 02:17:53 PM »

Well, I was wrong regardless, but I've never worked for an employer that didn't give bereavement leave. That's really outrageous.

Mongrel · « **Reply #1465 on:** January 20, 2011, 03:08:06 PM »

Well, to be fair, these people don't seem that sinister. Maybe the individual in question simply decided they didn't want to start a new job just then as they'd be busy for a while.

I do know that labour law here lets employers fire new hires for basically any reason they want within the first three months.

:dunno:

Spaco · « **Reply #1466 on:** January 20, 2011, 06:24:21 PM »

Seems like all non-government jobs I've ever had were at-will. Is that not the standard?

Joxam · « **Reply #1467 on:** January 20, 2011, 06:51:46 PM »

I honestly think the only thing that isn't 'at-will' is if you have a contract of some sort. I mean, at will is pretty much just defined as not having a contract for employment, isn't it?

Classic · « **Reply #1468 on:** January 20, 2011, 07:03:40 PM »

??? Um, I'm pretty sure I have to sign something which isn't dissimilar from a contract declaring that I understand my employment is "at-will". So... whuh?

Royal☭ · « **Reply #1469 on:** January 20, 2011, 07:07:41 PM »

That thing also says "This is not a contract". It's a legal waiver saying you can be fired at anytime. Those things are basically for signing away a decent job.

Classic · « **Reply #1470 on:** January 20, 2011, 07:29:29 PM »

I'm not entirely sure what a "contract" is then, and my gut tells me I am not going to get a good answer from wiki.

EDIT:
Maybe I was totally wrong about wiki?

R^2 · « **Reply #1471 on:** January 21, 2011, 09:59:40 AM »

There are exceptions, but as I'm familiar with the terms most employment is at-will, union, or contract. So if you're not under contract or part of a labor union, either you or your employer can terminate your employment for any reason.

Lottel · « **Reply #1472 on:** January 22, 2011, 09:01:52 PM »

So tonight at work proved that Saturdays are just not my days. Get to work at 10. No one shows up until five til two. We close at two for two hours but nope! Not with customers. So I serve them until they leave at 3:30. I work at 4:30 so I rush home to grab my charger and figure why not nap. I lay down for 5 minutes and then get a call to go in to work. Fine.
Work was typical until I tripped. Destroying 18 wine glasses. Later on, I tripped and dropped a glass of soda. I caught it all but still. As I was getting ready to close up, a man came in to pick up his food. I got his order, walked back to him and slipped on a puddle of water from someone's shoes. I fell on my back, and managed to catch his spaghetti and sandwhich, but his pizza went airborne. And landed on my face. I handed the food to the man and walked back to tell them to throw him in a new pizza. The man called out "Wait." so I stopped and the youngest daughter (who was apparently running after me) ran into my legs, causing me to fall face first into the ruined pizza.
"I don't want another pizza. It's alright. I wasn't going to eat it tonight anyway." The older daughter rang the man up as I stood up and I took the remains into the back. Where they just mopped. This time I fell sideways and smacked my head on the sink. And dropped the pizza on my shirt again.

Everyone was laughing the whole time. Including my boss. He stopped laughing when he let me know I had to pay for the glasses I broke. So here I am at home, broke, with a welt on the side of my head and a burnt face and a bruised nose.
Fuck. Saturdays.

Niku · « **Reply #1473 on:** January 22, 2011, 09:06:58 PM »

and now we get to the wacky hijinx portion of the episode.

Beat Bandit · « **Reply #1474 on:** January 22, 2011, 11:23:01 PM »

No seriously Lottel.

Anime protagonist.

Mongrel · « **Reply #1475 on:** January 23, 2011, 06:28:10 AM »

For what it's worth, Starr commented that from first-hand experience (more from a medical perspective than a hospitality one) that working in a restaurant is one of the most regularly dangerous jobs there is.

EDIT: Hmmmmmm there's a joke in there played off the word "Hospitality", but I just couldn't think of a good one. Maybe that's the name of the series Lottel stars in.

Rico · « **Reply #1476 on:** January 23, 2011, 09:46:47 AM »

Also what kind of terrible manager doesn't already have broken dishes built into their operating expenses?

Shinra · « **Reply #1477 on:** January 23, 2011, 10:52:25 AM »

Quote from: Rico on January 23, 2011, 09:46:47 AM

Also what kind of terrible manager doesn't already have broken dishes built into their operating expenses?

This, no shit. I swear to god, Lottel, you just like working for terrible people.

Lottel · « **Reply #1478 on:** January 23, 2011, 11:18:24 AM »

Well, to be entirely fair, this isn't the first batch of dishes I broke. And several dishes had been broken the night before (not by me).
We were well over budget on dishes. And business hasn't been that good on top of that.
It wasn't a "Anything you break you have to buy" sort of thing and more of a "the store really can't afford to spend more money on things like that. We're in the red as it is. We'll have to take it out of your paycheck this week."

Joxam · « **Reply #1479 on:** January 23, 2011, 05:39:23 PM »

Also, who breaks 18 of anything at once and doesn't expect to be held accountable? Honestly, hey, shinra and rico may have worked in the business, but my experiences in management and what can and will get you into trouble boil down to two things. Not showing up to work on time and costing the company money*. Hell, if you were so inclined you could say the reason the first one is on there is because it is in fact just the second.

*This is a very large catch all reason that can include such far reaching things as stealing, causing shrinkage, not properly dealing with perishables, inventory problems, mismanagement of company equipment and funds, not working while on the clock, showing up late, taking long breaks, inappropriate phone calls, etc.

EDIT: I just realized this sounds like a dig at Lottel. It isn't. Near as I can tell he is as OK as he can be about having to pay for something he broke. Its more of a question as to why people are surprised that he had to pay for it.

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