Topic: Your Job: The Movie (Read 177980 times)

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #2360 on:** September 25, 2012, 12:42:36 PM »

Quote from: Brentai on September 25, 2012, 09:28:59 AM

What's harder than explaining simple technical concepts to people with no background to understand them? Explaining simple technical concepts to people whose background really ought to include this stuff, but who remain completely ignorant of even the basic principles of it somehow.

It's even better when those people have the ability to completely roadblock the work you're doing based entirely on their ignorance of said concepts.

Also

Quote from: Mongrel on September 20, 2012, 07:04:17 AM

Tough question... really depends on your work climate.

If your stock isn't that great, wait until they bring you on board the other projects. Maybe even after you've been at it for a bit. If you're the golden boy, you might be able to ask once the request is made and pending but before you actually move. I generally wouldn't ask before you actually have confirmation of the extra responsibility, because you want your position to have stabilized (so you can point to things and say "See? I do this and this and this now").

You also have to think of the possibility and consequences of their saying no.

Don't get me wrong, I think that if your responsibilities are being expanded so much you should absolutely ask. But if you're on shakey ground, or the company generally doesn't issue raises outside regular processes, the safest bet may be to push it back to your next annual review.

Quote from: Brentai on September 20, 2012, 10:22:20 AM

Asking outright is a faux pas in modern America, but strongly indicating that you're dissatisfied with your current responsibility-to-compensation should provoke a response of some sort. If it doesn't, they're probably trying to push you out of the company. If you've sufficiently rattled your cage to the point where you feel comfortable, and nobody's come to feed you, then start looking for an escape route.

...I mixed my metaphor there a little. I'm saying (discreetly) look for another job, but make sure it actually gives you the advancement you want. Promotion via quitting is pretty common these days.

I was literally told yesterday by my manager that I am almost indespensible at this point, and that they are leaning on my skills/abilities more and more all the time. So I guess I should start rattling.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2361 on:** September 28, 2012, 04:16:53 PM »

About six months ago, they laid off a guy in our department who was technically a great worker, but who actually never did any work.

He had some sort of high-paying cop-support job lined up (he'd had a job like that before and was going back), so he didn't give two shits and basically spent the last three or four months here figuring out what he could get away with not doing, coming in 5 hours late (not an exaggeration), etc. Eventually they got sick of his antics and canned him.

We're short a couple guys, so now we're hiring. Today we got a message that same guy is being rehired. I mean, I don't hold it against the guy, he was a ton of fun and always helped anybody else out. But he was the LAST person I ever figured would be rehired.

Büge · « **Reply #2362 on:** September 28, 2012, 07:17:45 PM »

Can you get me a job there? :D

Mongrel · « **Reply #2363 on:** September 28, 2012, 09:30:58 PM »

Er...

:/

Brentai · « **Reply #2364 on:** September 28, 2012, 11:55:50 PM »

Classic · « **Reply #2365 on:** September 28, 2012, 11:59:49 PM »

Orange. County.

Thad · « **Reply #2366 on:** October 01, 2012, 09:46:12 AM »

Welp, guess it's official: I'm out of here in 3 weeks.

Wish they'd decided on a day other than my thirtieth birthday to tell me this, but so it goes.

Büge · « **Reply #2367 on:** October 01, 2012, 10:17:11 AM »

They just don't want you cashing in your pension early, grandpa.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2368 on:** October 01, 2012, 11:37:07 AM »

It turns out after comparing notes within the department and also with some cops, that the guy we're rehiring may be a compulsive liar and/or natural con and god knows what besides (he had a different story for every employee he was on good terms with and his stories of civilian cop employment are bunk)!

This is probably bad in a fraud investigation department!

Of course, nobody's going to come right out and say that to management, soooooo...

Silversong · « **Reply #2369 on:** October 01, 2012, 05:44:51 PM »

Anonymous letter time?

Mongrel · « **Reply #2370 on:** October 01, 2012, 05:49:35 PM »

No... best to let this thing play itself out, I think.

Anonymous letters are not really a great idea in a relatively small department full of people trained to interrogate people and investigate things in detail.

Brentai · « **Reply #2371 on:** October 01, 2012, 06:32:03 PM »

Apparently not well-trained.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #2372 on:** October 01, 2012, 06:41:25 PM »

Thad · « **Reply #2373 on:** October 01, 2012, 09:13:01 PM »

Well, the good news is the temp agency says they have a few more potential jobs already lined up, one of which is actually direct-hire and not a temp gig at all.

Now THAT would be a real-ass birthday present.

Not going to count on it or anything, but...it sure would be nice.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2374 on:** October 01, 2012, 09:50:29 PM »

Quote from: Brentai on October 01, 2012, 06:32:03 PM

Apparently not well-trained.

We all know for sure that the managers knew he was a fuckoff. He was thrown on all kind of probation before he was let go and his manager had to monitor literally everything he did (which made this rehire incredibly mindboggling even without the liar/con possibility).

Considering our senior manager is a fucking Bene Gesserit Truthsayser and ought to know better, I really got no idea what they're thinking. I doubt it's blackmail, and he's not related to anyone in the company, so fucked if I know!

At the very least this should get INTERESTING.

Thad · « **Reply #2375 on:** October 02, 2012, 02:54:11 PM »

Welp, got an interview on Thursday.

I'll say one thing for my temp agency: they haven't gotten me a dream job, but they HAVE kept me pretty consistently working since the end of '08, those first few months of '11 notwithstanding.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #2376 on:** October 03, 2012, 09:11:01 AM »

"Is Witness dependent on SAP?"

"No. Witness is dependent on Genesys."

"But Genesys is dependent on SAP."

"Yes."

DR meetings are fun.

Thad · « **Reply #2377 on:** October 04, 2012, 06:51:18 AM »

Welp, off to interview. Wish I didn't have a giant honking cold sore, and I didn't even think about how loose my nice interview slacks would be now, but fuck it, I am confident and I KNOW I can handle being the entire IT department for a local organization.

Shinra · « **Reply #2378 on:** October 04, 2012, 07:03:52 AM »

Quote from: Teddy Bearmont on October 03, 2012, 09:11:01 AM

"Is Witness dependent on SAP?"

"No. Witness is dependent on Genesys."

"But Genesys is dependent on SAP."

"Yes."

DR meetings are fun.

Every one of these programs sucks to troubleshoot.

Fuck SAP.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #2379 on:** October 04, 2012, 07:22:02 AM »

Quote from: Shinra on October 04, 2012, 07:03:52 AM

Quote from: Teddy Bearmont on October 03, 2012, 09:11:01 AM
"Is Witness dependent on SAP?"

"No. Witness is dependent on Genesys."

"But Genesys is dependent on SAP."

"Yes."

DR meetings are fun.

Every one of these programs sucks to troubleshoot.

Fuck SAP.

Yeah, and our instance is way worse, because we've bolted a ton of proprietary crap onto it. One of the SAP consultants we brought on said it was practically unrecognizable.

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