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Author Topic: Your Job: The Movie  (Read 178208 times)

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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2520 on: February 14, 2013, 06:06:56 AM »

A reenactment of what became of Mongrel's interview:

peter gibbons interview

I'd only be half kidding if I said that's about right.

This is pretty much going to be a totally lost year career-wise. I've passed my sell-by date here without getting the magic touch from on high, which means I will basically never enter a real promotion track, and my best expectation is to scratch and claw for years just to make senior rep and never get any higher.

But since I was fired from every previous job I've ever held at around the two year mark (for behaviour and or comments uncannily like that interview above, after I stopped tolerating terrible managers), I need to hang aroud here for at least another year, year-and-a-half, just to prevent my resume from permanently looking like a total disaster.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2521 on: February 14, 2013, 03:23:24 PM »

If it makes you feel any better, Mongrel, in the last three days I've had occasion to screw up in front of two directors and the VP.

Not my best week, that's for sure.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2522 on: February 14, 2013, 08:01:06 PM »

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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2523 on: February 15, 2013, 08:15:08 AM »

Also, the company owes me a lot of money and it looks like I'm going to have to go get aggressive about it if I ever want to see it.  Weighing my options here.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2524 on: February 15, 2013, 08:35:01 AM »

Like freelance fees, or unpaid hours, or what?
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2525 on: February 15, 2013, 11:59:40 AM »

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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2526 on: February 15, 2013, 12:50:29 PM »

Oh man, that is sweet indeed.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2527 on: February 15, 2013, 12:54:06 PM »

The Facebook profiles of the company make it sound like the guy is just trying to extract more money than the contract stipulated.

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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2528 on: February 15, 2013, 04:01:18 PM »

Like freelance fees, or unpaid hours, or what?

Educational assistance.

You can call that whining about free money if you like, but keep in mind that it's tuition already paid from my own credit line on good faith that it would be reimbursed, so I sort of have a month-sized hole in my finances right now.  And I'm only in school in the first place because the company demanded it.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2529 on: February 15, 2013, 05:20:48 PM »

I wouldn't call that whining about free money any more than I would call dental benefits whining for free money.

I'd wait for the course to be completed though before starting shit over it.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2530 on: February 18, 2013, 09:25:45 PM »

Man, today was my shortest interview ever.  Just weird; just a bunch of questions about what I knew and could do, none of the usual cliches about "What's your greatest strength and weakness?", "Do you have any questions for me?", etc.

I would take it as an indication that they dismissed me out-of-hand, except my rep says this company does it like that with everybody.

It's not a bad thing -- an interview that skips over the bullshit and goes over my bullet points is fine by me -- but it's tough to get a read on what I should expect.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2531 on: February 18, 2013, 11:06:15 PM »

Other than "Do you have any questions for me?" my interviews tend to stay on-topic too.  Of course, I'm the bottom interviewer out of an entire command chain, so they probably all run into the usual bullshit somewhere along the line.

Getting feedback from the candidate is just polite, I think, and you usually glean more information from the questions they ask than the ones you do.  The rest of those stock questions are more or less designed to help out managers who aren't exactly clear on what they're looking for - they tend to gravitate to whoever does the best job of telling it to them.  The absence of all that is a good sign, since they apparently have a skillset they're looking for, already know from your CV that you can fit into it, and just needed you there for a few minutes to verify that you don't smell like a used mop and can string two sentences together without stammering.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2532 on: February 19, 2013, 11:55:05 AM »

and just needed you there for a few minutes to verify that you don't smell like a used mop and can string two sentences together without stammering.

My brief experience in IT earlier in life indicates that these are not necessarily reasons you won't get hired.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2533 on: February 19, 2013, 12:54:14 PM »

Those might just be consequences of being an IT guy for too long, R^2.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2534 on: February 19, 2013, 02:31:54 PM »

The Facebook profiles of the company make it sound like the guy is just trying to extract more money than the contract stipulated.

The site came back. I just spotted this:
http://fitnesssf.tumblr.com/post/43166981561/onthewaytoourwebsite

They may have paid $5,000, but that doesn't necessarily mean they paid their bill in full. It's common for freelancers to take half up front, half on completion. It's also common for projects to go over time and budget, and for bad clients to try find excuses to wriggle out of payment.

The professional thing to do would be to take this to court. Taking down a client's website like this entertaining, but possibly illegal.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2535 on: February 19, 2013, 05:17:52 PM »

The Facebook profiles of the company make it sound like the guy is just trying to extract more money than the contract stipulated.

The site came back. I just spotted this:
http://fitnesssf.tumblr.com/post/43166981561/onthewaytoourwebsite

They may have paid $5,000, but that doesn't necessarily mean they paid their bill in full. It's common for freelancers to take half up front, half on completion. It's also common for projects to go over time and budget, and for bad clients to try find excuses to wriggle out of payment.

The professional thing to do would be to take this to court. Taking down a client's website like this entertaining, but possibly illegal.

It is possible for things to go over time and budget, which is why Frank should have renegotiated earlier. It's really a he said/she said at this point, but Fitness SF sounds like they paid him the amount upfront, after which he was four months late to deliver an unfinished project. The guy does have a point about freelancers and creative types getting screwed out of the work they do, but I don't feel that this is one of those instances. Sounds an awful lot like he's the one trying to take advantage of a client.

Ultimately, doing this to the client's website was a huge dick move, that not only affects his professional standing, but can hurt other freelancers who work as well. Things like this will make other companies treat freelancers worse if they think they're all greedy and willing to resort to ransoming to extract money.

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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2536 on: February 21, 2013, 05:02:24 AM »

Next week / this weekend maybe I start my new job as a console operator for the shows at a planetarium.

Every night will be laser floyd night.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2537 on: February 21, 2013, 08:13:55 AM »

Next week / this weekend maybe I start my new job as a console operator for the shows at a planetarium.

Every night will be laser floyd night.

Hahah, holy shit. That sounds like a sweet job.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2538 on: February 24, 2013, 10:43:57 AM »

I think I've mentioned this before, but this office is LOADED with conspiracy nutcases. I don't know why or how, but it's just the most wacky shit.

Usually it's Eric Von Dainiken ancient aliens shit, or "the government secretly controls X".

Today it's a giant hidden fortress in the Nevada desert, because apparently the US possesses CLOAKING DEVICES.
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Re: Your Job: The Movie
« Reply #2539 on: February 24, 2013, 11:44:41 AM »

...Were they talking about Black Mesa?
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