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[Mongrel]

Exactly.

Which is not to say the PLAoC wouldn't cross the border were the Kim to be whacked (be it by them or by someone else), but there's be some public excuses/statements justifying it first. It might even take several weeks. But they would have to have some kind of justification to sell to the world, even if it was flimsier than a North Korean dinner plate. It's all about the appearences.

I just think the Chinese are smart enough to know there's a really bad rate of return for directly attacking NK. Even if you assume the PLA would just roll in with little or no resistance. They're faced with a country that's essentially desolate. It'd be way worse than when West Germany merged with East Germany (that analogy is a bit more appropriate to SK/NK, but you get the idea). Even if they wanted to do no more than enslave the country they'd still have massive work to do to bring it up to even a minimum level for abuse.

The only thing that would soften the blow is the fact that China is so much larger it could spread the pain a bit better.

[Classic]

Sorry, that wasn't very helpful nor clear.

I did indeed read everything you wrote. I just found your choice of words funny.

the chinese brand of slavery is a little less soul crushing.

The Dalai-Lama wants to have some words with you Shinra.

Considering that the reshaping and remodeling of the Tibetan Buddhism, is one of the big goals of China's imperial genocide, it's funny that you'd use the phrase "soul crushing" when the idea of a soul is a spiritual or religious construct.

I am in no way accusing you of diminishing China's human rights violations.
Though I confess I am uncomfortable that you're trying to compare the human rights violations of an impoverished autocracy (with serious religious overtones) to human rights abuses and negligence within China's "prosperous" and undisputed continental borders, when the stuff that seems the worst occurs in their de facto colonial holdings (where they in theory have less editorial control over news).
In short, even if you had a perfectly accurate rubric for determining which regime had worse human rights violations, why would you bother making the distinction when they're this close?

[Bal]

one of North Korea's problems is that they don't actually have any modern natural resources. The reason nobody invades NK is because it is the very definition of "more trouble than it's worth". You have a population that's been systematically rendered as socially retarded as possible and who are starving besides, no natural resources to exploit, and the the fact that they have shitty nukes is irrelevant in the face of the fact that they have 60 year old guns that could shell Seoul into rubble with good old fashioned explosives from behind their own borders.

When the shit finally does hit the fan in North Korea, it's going to be a generational clean up process.

[Rico]

So it's like that Civ game where you have shit for luxury or strategic and you just hang in at the bottom of the scoreboard until you build Manhattan Project and nuke whoever's in the lead?

[R^2]

I'm disappointed in all of you for not making a "Kim Jung Un dead" joke.

[McDohl]

Perhaps we're all the better men for it.

[Thad]

North Korea agrees to halt nuclear activities for food

Heeeeeey.  Assuming it's not just more bullshit, this is a pretty immediate step in the right direction.

[Caithness]

Isn't "halting" their nuclear activities how they make a living?

[Bal]

More continue living than making one. As I said before, they're seriously fucking starving in N. Korea. Hitchens once said, after visiting N. Korea, that the work force is much like slave labor, because all property is communal (technically), excepting that slaves get fed. 

[Catloaf]

Women become more powerful in North Korea while everyone suffers.
tl;dr: Prison if you don't go to work; If no work to do, you have to pay them to go to work and do nothing; monthly salaries that aren't enough to buy a kilo of rice; Women deal in grey/black market just to scrape by (and incidentally keep the cops fed via bribes), essentially keep husbands as pets. Also, almost all their husband-pets beat them regularly whilst complaining about not being able to disobey their wives due to complete economic dependency.

Ironically, it was governmental actions intended to subjugate women that led to this.

[Mongrel]

Man, every time you think that country has finally found the final wall of crazy (haha, who are we kidding), they go and break through.

[Büge]

Women become more powerful in North Korea while everyone suffers.

"Women, because of their prominence in the market, are at the forefront of acts of civil disobedience," Noland says, emphasizing that civil disobedience is still extremely unusual in North Korea. "The protests are generally reactive and defensive in nature, but women are very prominent in them."

The extra burden women carry is beginning to have social consequences, with young women hoping to delay marriage to avoid taking on a husband. For men, their emasculation within their own households is now a fact of life.

I wonder if this could lead to positive social reform.

[Mongrel]

The only path that leads to positive social reform in North Korea leads through an implosion.

[Healy]

I remember reading something similar about Vietnam like ten years ago; there, though, the situation was that the Vietnam War pulled nearly all the men from their jobs, and the women kept working after the war because ??? (Look I read it a long time ago, okay.) But last I heard people in Vietnam can still eat.

So hey, changing the subject, wasn't there supposed to be some kind of missile test scheduled around this time? What happened to that?

[Mazian]

So hey, changing the subject, wasn't there supposed to be some kind of missile test scheduled around this time? What happened to that?

They actually pulled off a partial win, successfully lobbing a satellite into orbit, though it's tumbling and out of control.  South Korea has been fishing parts of the rocket's lower stages out of the ocean to see how it was made; it bears a lot of similarities to the old Scud missile.

[Healy]

Oh yeah, I heard about that! So where are they gonna go from that, supposedly?

[Bal]

Oh yeah, I heard about that! So where are they gonna go from that, supposedly?

Socioeconomic collapse into a failed State scenario.

Alternate possibility: Amazon Women of Pyongyang.

[Zaratustra]

GLORIOUS BEST KOREA SATELLITE KEEPS EYE ON ALL AREAS OF SPACE AND EARTH

[Büge]

http://now.msn.com/north-korea-does-not-like-women-with-big-breasts

[Friday]

I like small TITS and I cannot lie

you other fascists can't deny