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Author Topic: Tales From the Nerd Store.  (Read 19267 times)

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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #120 on: October 04, 2008, 08:28:43 AM »

Sadly, I just spent all my stray money on foreign Shards of Alara. Caballero de la Orquídea Blanca! Архангел Небесного Огня! Tonnerre de l'enfer! Tezzeret, o Perseguidor!
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #121 on: October 04, 2008, 08:46:13 AM »

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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #122 on: October 04, 2008, 08:49:39 AM »

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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #123 on: October 04, 2008, 09:59:46 AM »

...yeah. Shards is my cutoff point for Magic Cards. Planeswalkers were bad enough. Now they're shuffling the economics of the game. No thank you.
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #124 on: October 04, 2008, 10:33:03 AM »

How do you mean?
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #125 on: October 04, 2008, 11:16:49 AM »

So I just think i made off with a great deal.. Bought a box of shards and it ended up a super box. Every pack had a foil rare and a regular rare, and a few had a regular rare, foil rare, and a foil mythic. The next box was almost as godly for the next person but not as many regular rares.. Posted something on a few magic sites and after a few post they were immediately closed.
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #126 on: October 04, 2008, 08:29:25 PM »

...yeah. Shards is my cutoff point for Magic Cards. Planeswalkers were bad enough. Now they're shuffling the economics of the game. No thank you.

I on the other hand am considering getting into magic for the first time in forever as it's way more entry friendly with the new set systems than it has been in... ever?
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #127 on: October 05, 2008, 06:11:11 AM »

In fairness, this is also true.

But it's easy in the same sense that getting your first crack rock for free is easy.
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #128 on: October 05, 2008, 06:23:12 AM »

How do you mean?

Smaller sets mean less content.
Mythic rares are intended to encourage the buying of packs over singles.
Replacing a common with a land in each pack means they don't have to print as much to make the same money.

See, it used to be that Wizards would try to keep you in the game with interesting gimmicks. Now they've just gotten lazy.
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #129 on: October 05, 2008, 06:37:31 AM »

Smaller sets mean less content.

They've been padding the sets with way too much filler for some time now. This is partially because the game is 15 years old. Over time it becomes harder and harder to stay fresh.

More importantly, for the past 2-3 years, they've been slowly pushing for 4 sets a year instead of three. This has blown up in their faces, because LESS packs are being opened, driving up the prices of Type 2 rares to ludicrous levels and semi-new players (i.e. their core market: people who've been playing for 1-3 years) were too financially fatigued to keep up.

That's not just WotC selling a line, that IS what was happening. Less Morningtide (or whatever) is opened, so dumbshit like Mutavault or Bitterblossom goes for $35, I mean, that is some serious fucking cracksmokery. Lorwyn block was WotC reaching the saturation point. And then putting out more. When awful shit like Figure of Destiny or Stillmoon Cavalier reaches the prices they have, it's indicative of a broken supply-and-demand model.

I for one welcome smaller sets less often.

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Mythic rares are intended to encourage the buying of packs over singles.

Uh, the effect in real life is pretty much the opposite. If I want a Tezzeret, I'll let the dealer open $1000 worth of product and then happily pay the dealer $25 for the card. Only crackheaded retards open packs looking for a given rare - doing this with mythic rares is precisely 1.7 times as stupid.

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Replacing a common with a land in each pack means they don't have to print as much to make the same money.

It's the same number of cards. They could print boosters with 15 Black Lotueses in them and it would cost the same. If anything, the need to sub in another print sheet and recalibrate the sorting would INCREASE printing costs, not decrease them (which is why lands were cut from packs anyway: simplicity in printing).
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #130 on: October 05, 2008, 07:14:06 PM »

Been meaning to ask how to build an effective fungus/saproling deck. Also, splitmerge, plz?

Uh, the effect in real life is pretty much the opposite.

I never said it was a good plan. Just that that's what it seems like.

And that brings me to my next point. Planeswalkers have to be one of the worst changes they could have made to the game. They're a card type that no colour has an effective strategy against. No deck would run an anti-plansewalker card specifically to deal with planeswalkers. They make even less sense from a flavour perspective, and I was pretty cheesed off with the way they were introduced. But try telling that to Johnny Aspie who puts four Garruk Wildspeakers into a green deck whether it needs them or not. Y'know, to stay competitive.
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #131 on: October 05, 2008, 08:39:34 PM »

Wait... They added planeswalkers to the mix? A-aren't you, the player supposed to be a planeswalker? Isn't that the established fiction?
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #132 on: October 05, 2008, 09:19:04 PM »

Yeah, but why can't you call up your buddies in the community and be like "Hey, I need a bitch slapped" and they're like "Fine but we're even for that snake thing." and you can't ask too much of them or they'll split, as evidenced by their Loyalty counters mechanic.
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #133 on: October 06, 2008, 04:08:51 AM »

Isn't that the established fiction?

Yeah, but "WotC's established fiction" is kind of like "Offical crackheaded hobo Seal Of Approval". Writing background stories has, ah, not been their strong suit in some time.
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #134 on: October 06, 2008, 07:01:18 AM »

It's okay.  They'll run out of ideas.  Some day.
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #135 on: October 06, 2008, 04:36:19 PM »

Is this where we cite the number of Apocalytic and/or Post-Apocalytic story arcs in Magic's history?

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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #136 on: October 06, 2008, 04:47:54 PM »

I love the number of times over the years someone would come up to me at the counter when buying some CCG that isn't magic, and then informs me that what they are buying is indeed the magic killer, and I'm a sucker for not playing it.

"Why aren't you carrying singles for Bleach? It's BETTER than magic!  Magic is just going to fold up and blow away."

"Man, Magi-Nation has so much better gameplay and it appeals to everyone."

"Duel-Masters is pretty good, according to this it's beating out even Yugi-oh in Japan right now and it's on it's way up." (This one was my employer.)

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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #137 on: October 06, 2008, 04:49:47 PM »

I love the number of times over the years someone came up to me at the counter when buying some CCG that isn't magic, and then informs me that what they are buying is indeed the magic killer, and I'm a sucker for not playing it.

I feel this way for new MMORPGs and WoW.
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #138 on: October 06, 2008, 05:12:49 PM »

I love the number of times over the years someone would come up to me at the counter when buying some CCG that isn't magic, and then informs me that what they are buying is indeed the magic killer, and I'm a sucker for not playing it.

"Why aren't you carrying singles for Bleach? It's BETTER than magic!  Magic is just going to fold up and blow away."

"Man, Magi-Nation has so much better gameplay and it appeals to everyone."

"Duel-Masters is pretty good, according to this it's beating out even Yugi-oh in Japan right now and it's on it's way up." (This one was my employer.)



What was with their love of duel masters? I'd go in there to buy L5R and they'd mock me and make my money feel generally unwelcome, then proceed to lecture me about how I should play duel masters. God I hate that store.
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Re: Tales From the Nerd Store.
« Reply #139 on: October 06, 2008, 05:20:27 PM »

...didn't Pokemon kill Magic like a decade ago?
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