Topic: E3 2009 (Read 11506 times)

Royal☭ · « **Reply #60 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:37:34 PM »

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one must wonder if this is simply a protest, or a PR stunt.

Wonder where they got that idea.

Arc · « **Reply #61 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:59:47 PM »

I'm just pleased that these Warriors For God know the importance of correctly stenciling a company logo for each and every instance, large or small.

Brentai · « **Reply #62 on:** June 03, 2009, 06:44:40 PM »

Glad to see Acclaim's marketing department has found new work.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #63 on:** June 03, 2009, 07:46:22 PM »

The dead giveaway is that they even know who the game is by at all.

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #64 on:** June 04, 2009, 12:24:09 PM »

Well. Fuck you, Activision.

James Edward Smith · « **Reply #65 on:** June 04, 2009, 12:29:20 PM »

Top quality voice acting in MY Castlevania? it's more likely than you'd think.

Check it out, Patrick Stewart and everything.

What is a man? The line must me drawn HERE! NO FURTHER!

Büge · « **Reply #66 on:** June 04, 2009, 01:59:02 PM »

I am the Emperor, Dracula Septim....

Niku · « **Reply #67 on:** June 04, 2009, 02:51:43 PM »

Quote from: Disposable Ninja on June 04, 2009, 12:24:09 PM

Well. Fuck you, Activision.

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EA's response to Activision's legal threats called them as ridiculous as "a husband abandoning his family and then suing after his wife meets a better looking guy."

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"Hey, if Activision liked it, then they should have put a ring on it," Schafer said. "Oh great, now Beyoncé is going to sue me too."

teehee

Friday · « **Reply #68 on:** June 04, 2009, 03:20:19 PM »

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Really, there's so much that goes into games that you'd think we'd realize by now it's silly to assume something will be great just because of the involvement of one or two people.

uh

while I'm well aware that games now have staffs the size of Roger's erect penis, this does not mean that one person cannot make a great game, or influence a game so that it is much much better than it would have been without them.

The way you're talking is like somehow all of Blizzard (or insert game company) gets together and mind melds to come up with shit. No. There's a guy, somewhere, pitching an idea. Yeah, once it's on the table it gets talked about and refined and tweaked, maybe. But the idea has to come from somebody. And certain people are good with ideas.

Catloaf · « **Reply #69 on:** June 04, 2009, 03:54:40 PM »

Yes, but the Auteur theory* doesn't apply to video games nearly as much as it does in film. And only good directors even apply to Auteur theory in film! So only a few game makers should have that honor; like Shiggy, suda51, and the guy who made Katamari&Nobi Nobi boy. Nobody remembers the guy behind ICO, as that was highly a team endeavor.

*The Director of a movie is the principle artist and creative force, the "author" if you will, behind the film and should be given almost all the credit for everything in the film.
Examples of films that follow this perfectly would be anything by Woody Allen.

Mongrel · « **Reply #70 on:** June 04, 2009, 04:03:21 PM »

Maybe the game industry could use more 'Auteurs', eh?

Brentai · « **Reply #71 on:** June 04, 2009, 04:35:48 PM »

For all intents and purposes, Shiggy, Kojima, Spector, Wright, amd Molyneux are more or less responsible for the games their names are on. These are guys with enough authority within their organizations to go as far as to say "Fuck this shit, start it all over" and have the team actually comply.

Which is not to say everyone who has their name attached to a game necessarily deserves it. Yuji Naka for example is not the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog; he certainly deserves mad credit for the really sophisticated programming in that game (it's way more complicated than it looks on a machine that's way more underpowered than was advertised) but he did not come up with the idea or produce the game. He is probably responsible for Nights and PSO though, so suck on that.

But I think overall if, say, American McGee sobered up and decided he wanted to actually make something of his own, he'd get socked in the face every time he tried to push an actual decision.

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #72 on:** June 04, 2009, 06:10:32 PM »

Tim Schafer would be one, too, I'd say.

Brentai · « **Reply #73 on:** June 04, 2009, 06:39:18 PM »

Tim Schafer clearly pissed off a gypsy though.

Romosome · « **Reply #74 on:** June 04, 2009, 06:40:43 PM »

Quote from: Friday on June 04, 2009, 03:20:19 PM

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Really, there's so much that goes into games that you'd think we'd realize by now it's silly to assume something will be great just because of the involvement of one or two people.

uh

while I'm well aware that games now have staffs the size of Roger's erect penis, this does not mean that one person cannot make a great game, or influence a game so that it is much much better than it would have been without them.

The way you're talking is like somehow all of Blizzard (or insert game company) gets together and mind melds to come up with shit. No. There's a guy, somewhere, pitching an idea. Yeah, once it's on the table it gets talked about and refined and tweaked, maybe. But the idea has to come from somebody. And certain people are good with ideas.

I should've clarified. I was trying to say the opposite, that there are so many hands and steps in the process nowadays that it's getting easier and easier for a game to get manhandled and made into a flop despite the presence of a big-name creative visionary. Was thinking mostly about Spore and Will Wright.

It's a bit "so what" now that I think about it, but the main point is "The complexity of game production nowadays is becoming a double-edged sword".

Saturn · « **Reply #75 on:** June 04, 2009, 06:50:36 PM »

Quote from: Brentai on June 04, 2009, 06:39:18 PM

Tim Schafer clearly pissed off a gypsy though.

Do you have any idea how easy it is to get cursed by a gypsy?

you so much as breathe near them funny and WHAM, your first born son gets the fucking plague

LaserBeing · « **Reply #76 on:** June 04, 2009, 07:05:33 PM »

Quote from: Catloaf on June 04, 2009, 03:54:40 PM

Nobody remembers the guy behind ICO, as that was highly a team endeavor.

Maybe YOU don't. Fumito Ueda.

Niku · « **Reply #77 on:** June 04, 2009, 07:09:27 PM »

Quote from: Saturn on June 04, 2009, 06:50:36 PM

Quote from: Brentai on June 04, 2009, 06:39:18 PM
Tim Schafer clearly pissed off a gypsy though.

Do you have any idea how easy it is to get cursed by a gypsy?

you so much as breathe near them funny and WHAM, your first born son gets the fucking plague

YOU SHAMED ME

Catloaf · « **Reply #78 on:** June 04, 2009, 07:16:58 PM »

Quote from: Lee-Ham on June 04, 2009, 07:05:33 PM

Quote from: Catloaf on June 04, 2009, 03:54:40 PM
Nobody remembers the guy behind ICO, as that was highly a team endeavor.

Maybe YOU don't. Fumito Ueda.

Well, honestly I was drawing up a blank on coming up with a non-auteur game. Let's say Guitar Hero then.

Friday · « **Reply #79 on:** June 04, 2009, 08:19:49 PM »

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I was trying to say the opposite, that there are so many hands and steps in the process nowadays that it's getting easier and easier for a game to get manhandled and made into a flop despite the presence of a big-name creative visionary.

Oh. Yeah. Totally agree. 95% of the population have ideas that are complete shit, and adding them into your game will make it shit.

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