Topic: Metroid: Other M (Read 11898 times)

LaserBeing · « **Reply #80 on:** June 12, 2009, 04:04:44 PM »

I'm pretty certain that Mother Brain was created by the Chozo to be the administrator of Zebes. If anything the Aurora Units are based on her design, not the other way around.

Quote from: Kabbage on June 12, 2009, 01:28:06 PM

I don't know if I ever got a motherly vibe from the out-for-profit bounty hunter in Super Metroid; it was 'Troid Jr that took it all as a mother/son relationship.

Samus's mission was to eradicate every last metroid in existence, but she stopped short when the baby imprinted on her. You're saying that's not maternal instinct?

Brentai · « **Reply #81 on:** June 12, 2009, 04:17:47 PM »

Quote from: Detonator on June 12, 2009, 03:14:25 PM

I've had enough games where you play a solitary figure struggling against a taunting feminine AI.

Medium needs more taunting masculine AIs I think. XERXES got shafted by being stuck in the same game next to SHODAN but it was fun how hilariously matter-of-fact he was about how he was going to kill you with very polite kamikazes.

And of course there's that largely unexploited resource of "the last five people in the world against a very, very, very pissed off masculine AI."

Rosencrantz · « **Reply #82 on:** June 12, 2009, 04:21:13 PM »

Quote from: Detonator on June 12, 2009, 03:14:25 PM

I suppose this is the case, but it's never implied that Mother Brain has a personality in anything except Captain N. I guess that's your point, but I don't want Mother Brain to suddenly be a chatty bitch. I've had enough games where you play a solitary figure struggling against a taunting feminine AI.

I believe that Mother Brain had a little bit of a personality in the prequel manga, which is apparently considered canon. But of course, that will probably change when Other M comes out...

LaserBeing · « **Reply #83 on:** June 12, 2009, 04:59:23 PM »

Well, the Other M trailer has already shown a character from said prequel manga, so I wouldn't dismiss it just yet.

What's more disturbing is that Chairman Keaton's guest appearance suggests that the god-awful Nintendo Power Super Metroid adaptation may also be canon.

Brentai · « **Reply #84 on:** June 12, 2009, 05:34:47 PM »

We have a problem: Houston.

Catloaf · « **Reply #85 on:** June 12, 2009, 07:39:21 PM »

But, weren't those fuzy green wall jumping things that Samus even keeps as pets at the end of fusion called Keatons?

Rosencrantz · « **Reply #86 on:** June 12, 2009, 07:43:02 PM »

Etecoons.

Romosome · « **Reply #87 on:** June 12, 2009, 07:45:43 PM »

Keaton does bear a vague resemblance to them.

Spram · « **Reply #88 on:** June 12, 2009, 08:15:11 PM »

Quote from: Lee-Ham on June 12, 2009, 04:04:44 PM

Samus's mission was to eradicate every last metroid in existence, but she stopped short when the baby imprinted on her. You're saying that's not maternal instinct?

She sells it to scientist so they can do experiments on it, so no.

The Metroid is probably too stupid to realize this so it sacrifices itself... for nothing.

Also, I bet the story in Metroid: Other M is going to be really stupid, sexist and nonsensical.

Catloaf · « **Reply #89 on:** June 12, 2009, 09:19:34 PM »

Quote from: Spram on June 12, 2009, 08:15:11 PM

She sells it to scientist so they can do experiments on it, so no.

Well what the hell else could she do with it? It's an extremely dangerous parasitic killing machine. A killing machine that could yield quite a bit of useful information if given to

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Friday · « **Reply #90 on:** June 12, 2009, 09:27:29 PM »

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The Metroid is probably imprinted on Samus so it sacrifices itself... to save what it perceived as its mother's life.

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Well what the hell else could she do with it?

Kill it.

Not that I think she should have. It showed she has a human side.

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And of course there's that largely unexploited resource of "the last five people in the world against a very, very, very pissed off masculine AI."

I have no freeze ray and I must kill metroids

Alex · « **Reply #91 on:** June 12, 2009, 09:33:00 PM »

Quote from: Spram on June 12, 2009, 08:15:11 PM

Also, I bet the story in Metroid: Other M is going to be Japanese.

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #92 on:** June 12, 2009, 09:38:33 PM »

Quote from: Friday on June 12, 2009, 09:27:29 PM

I have no freeze ray and I must kill metroids

... Now all I can think about is AM being a massive otaku instead of a misanthrope.

LaserBeing · « **Reply #93 on:** June 12, 2009, 10:24:23 PM »

Quote from: Spram on June 12, 2009, 08:15:11 PM

She sells it to scientist so they can do experiments on it, so no.

She hands it over to them. It never specifically says she's selling it. Maybe she's handing it over because she knows it has to be destroyed but can't bring herself to shoot a baby in the ~~face~~ nerve cluster / doesn't want the responsibility for the complete and utter genocide of an entire species. And I mean, she can't exactly keep it as a pet.

The actual scene where it imprints on her is one of the more nuanced video game scenes of that era. She raises her gun to blast it, visibly hesitates as it chirps innocently, and then puts down her gun and takes off with it. I think the intent was pretty clear, considering the limitations of the medium.

I think this is the problem people have with giving Samus more characterisation. Everyone has their own idea of who and what she is, despite barely having a personality beyond "cool space armour", and as more and more of her character is revealed, the difference between Nintendo's version and one's personal version is bound to be disappointing. Personally though I find it interesting. She's starting to look a little like Big Boss in the sense of being someone with a strong sense of justice and humanity who nevertheless increasingly seems to end up forced into committing what could arguably be considered war crimes.

Quote from: Spram on June 12, 2009, 08:15:11 PM

Also, I bet the story in Metroid: Other M is going to be really stupid, sexist and nonsensical.

Brentai · « **Reply #94 on:** June 12, 2009, 10:44:52 PM »

Yeah, the fact that Samus' character, back when she was just an alluringly indecipherable creature trapped in a cold metal faceless shell, was largely interpretive is one of the big reasons why fans tend to react badly to WORDS in the Metroid games. That and humanizing the atmosphere and making it less lonely is pretty much missing the point.

Alex · « **Reply #95 on:** June 12, 2009, 10:55:55 PM »

It's not surprising that the series is getting more and more wordy. You can only play the 'SPACE IS EMPTY EXCEPT FOR YOOOOOOOOOOOOOU' angle for so long.

I, for one, welcome our new vocal overlords.

yyler · « **Reply #96 on:** June 12, 2009, 10:56:33 PM »

Quote from: Alex on June 12, 2009, 10:55:55 PM

It's not surprising that the series is getting more and more wordy. You can only play the 'SPACE IS EMPTY EXCEPT FOR YOOOOOOOOOOOOOU' angle for so long.

...Why not?

Alex · « **Reply #97 on:** June 12, 2009, 11:01:12 PM »

I think it has something to do with accepting that all things inevitably move on.

LaserBeing · « **Reply #98 on:** June 12, 2009, 11:21:36 PM »

Quote from: Brentai on June 12, 2009, 10:44:52 PM

That and humanizing the atmosphere and making it less lonely is pretty much missing the point.

Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I don't think they can fuck that aspect up much worse than Corruption already did. Then again, they've already shown a whole squad of Feddy tag-alongs, so who knows.

Having said that, I don't think maintaining the atmosphere of isolation necessarily requires Samus to be literally all by herself. I mean, look at Alien. The Nostromo was full of people; didn't change the fact that they were on their own in the depths of space a billion miles from anyone who could possibly help them. The Thing is another great example. In fact, maybe the facility surrounded by snow that we see in the trailer is like the Antarctic outpost, and it gets infiltrated by some kind of freaky organism. Maybe instead of continuing to plunder from the increasingly shitty Alien series they're switching to The Thing...

...oh...oh god

...uh... pardon me. Anyway, for the record, I thought Fusion's storytelling was simultaneously its best and worst feature, so I expect Other M to be similarly conflicted. Sakamoto hasn't made a Metroid that I've disliked yet, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Brentai · « **Reply #99 on:** June 13, 2009, 12:29:31 AM »

Yeah, you don't need to be literally alone to feel lonely. The fact that Samus is usually unable to leave the confines of her big metal suit (Zero Mission's casual tossing away of the concept of a toxic atmosphere aside) should put a painful distance between her and any other humans that may be around but unable to be touched, felt, or clearly seen.

Alternately, do what Team Ninja did, and make all the humans in the universe look like sex dolls.

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