Topic: Metroid: Other M (Read 11902 times)

Friday · « **Reply #60 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:52:48 PM »

We do have a little annual get together though. You know, knit quilts, practice kissing, and share stories of gullible boys.

yyler · « **Reply #61 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:54:40 PM »

Quote from: Brentai on June 03, 2009, 05:46:45 PM

Quote from: Detonator on June 03, 2009, 05:07:42 PM
Except, you know, Metroid Prime did it perfectly.

Errrrrm? Not without gallons of text.

If you don't scan shit the game never gives you a very clear idea as to why a giant alien jellyfish/tank just popped out of the ground, or what the significance of it is.

YEAH AND THAT FUCKING RULED.

Played the game like three times before I knew what was going on and it owned.

Mothra · « **Reply #62 on:** June 03, 2009, 06:00:33 PM »

Quote from: Brentai on June 03, 2009, 05:46:45 PM

Quote from: Detonator on June 03, 2009, 05:07:42 PM
Except, you know, Metroid Prime did it perfectly.

Errrrrm? Not without gallons of text.

If you don't scan shit the game never gives you a very clear idea as to why a giant alien jellyfish/tank just popped out of the ground, or what the significance of it is.

Super Metroid never told you why Kraid or anyone who wasn't Ridley wanted to kill your ass! They were just massive pissed-off native monsters desirous to kill all humans. Same with Prime, only there IS a reason there if you feel like digging around for it.

Niku · « **Reply #63 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:14:45 PM »

Quote from: Friday on June 03, 2009, 05:52:02 PM

It's just not worth the risk.

it's like velcro that keeps gnawing

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #64 on:** June 04, 2009, 10:54:00 AM »

Quote from: Brentai on June 03, 2009, 05:46:45 PM

Quote from: Detonator on June 03, 2009, 05:07:42 PM
Except, you know, Metroid Prime did it perfectly.

Errrrrm? Not without gallons of text.

If you don't scan shit the game never gives you a very clear idea as to why a giant alien jellyfish/tank just popped out of the ground, or what the significance of it is.

The knowledge that it is there if I want to go find out is, to me, preferable to being locked in a room with a computer who won't let me out until I watch its cutscene.

Metroid Prime did it all kinds of perfectly.

Smiler · « **Reply #65 on:** June 04, 2009, 02:21:40 PM »

Quote from: Kabbage on June 03, 2009, 06:00:33 PM

Super Metroid never told you why Kraid or anyone who wasn't Ridley wanted to kill your ass! They were just massive pissed-off native monsters desirous to kill all humans. Same with Prime, only there IS a reason there if you feel like digging around for it.

Except all of those reasons were probably "Phazon".

Cthulhu-chan · « **Reply #66 on:** June 04, 2009, 07:06:28 PM »

As opposed to metroids being the primary MacGuffin?

Saturn · « **Reply #67 on:** June 04, 2009, 07:23:34 PM »

the scans gave us comedy gold like the space pirate science team's attempts to make a morph-ball.

A² · « **Reply #68 on:** June 04, 2009, 07:44:57 PM »

Did one of the scans lightly touch on the Fridge Logic of the doors being coded to Samus' beams and not the pirates, or am I making things up again.

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #69 on:** June 05, 2009, 01:05:07 AM »

I think Prime attempts to establish that most doors have a certain kind of shielding, which, by a coincidence, certain types of weapon fire can disrupt. But at no point does it explain why they use so many of the cheap doors with the blue shielding.

JDigital · « **Reply #70 on:** June 05, 2009, 09:09:28 AM »

They're cheaper.

François · « **Reply #71 on:** June 05, 2009, 10:31:34 AM »

I vaguely remember that they put the shielded doors there in an attempt to keep the local wildlife out of their installations, the assumption being that the animals don't have energy weapons.

They're pretty good at burrowing and swarming through vents though. Also some of them do have energy weapons.

Mothra · « **Reply #72 on:** June 12, 2009, 01:28:06 PM »

Sakamoto on M's story:

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With Fusion, that game was very story-driven. In that game, I believe I was able to explain Samus as a character, as a person, not just somebody in armor. And I was not only explain Samus but the characters around her… with Super Metroid I showed, through her relationship with the baby Metroid, some of her maternal instincts. Between those two stories I feel I was able to explain Samus as a person. But because Metroid equals Samus, I'd like to develop her character further, as a soldier, as a human, also as a woman. That's what they're hoping to do with Other M.

By the sound of the interview, Sakamoto wasn't incredibly sold on Retro's approach to bringing Metroid into 3D, M's being what he feels the direction should be.

Bringing a maternal aspect to Samus, though? I don't know if I ever got a motherly vibe from the out-for-profit bounty hunter in Super Metroid; it was 'Troid Jr that took it all as a mother/son relationship. I can buy that it changed her in the future, like in Fusion, but in a prequel like Other M?

Brentai · « **Reply #73 on:** June 12, 2009, 01:29:49 PM »

The hyper beam was fueled by her maternal rage.

...also Mother Brain's life energy.

But mostly maternal rage.

You know, they never do explore what relationship the Metroids have with, you know, Mother Brain. Or their actual mother, the Metroid Queen. Come to think of it that whole series is all about matricide in one form or another.

Alex · « **Reply #74 on:** June 12, 2009, 01:38:16 PM »

Maybe when they're done with Other M, they'll make a stylish action game out of Kid Icarus.

...What? I can dream.

Rosencrantz · « **Reply #75 on:** June 12, 2009, 01:41:55 PM »

If Metroid Prime 3 is to be taken as canon - which it probably won't be! - then Mother Brain is just an Aurora Unit with a female personality. It is said that the AUs can be given male, female, or gender-neutral personalities.

Now, I would like to learn more about the whole Metroid Queen thing. Fusion's manual said that the Chozo created the Metroids to kill the X Parasites, and although that's a retcon, I'd like to know why they would create a horrible, life-sucking, requires-subzero-temperatures-and-then-five-powerful-missles-to-kill creatures and allow them to metamorphose into more powerful adult forms.

Brentai · « **Reply #76 on:** June 12, 2009, 01:46:25 PM »

Because X parasites like to take the form of invincible, implacable hunter-killer clones of whatever they infect. And they were infecting psychic birds from beyond the grave.

Rosencrantz · « **Reply #77 on:** June 12, 2009, 01:48:41 PM »

Okay, fair enough. So can we also assume that they developed the Power Armor to defeat the Metroids in case they got out of hand? The end of Zero Mission has a mural of a Chozo wearing the same type of armor as Samus, so she's not the only one to use it.

Detonator · « **Reply #78 on:** June 12, 2009, 03:14:25 PM »

Quote from: Kabbage on June 12, 2009, 01:28:06 PM

Bringing a maternal aspect to Samus, though? I don't know if I ever got a motherly vibe from the out-for-profit bounty hunter in Super Metroid; it was 'Troid Jr that took it all as a mother/son relationship. I can buy that it changed her in the future, like in Fusion, but in a prequel like Other M?

Other M comes after Super Metroid, before Fusion. The chronology of the series is very confusing.

Quote from: Rosencrantz on June 12, 2009, 01:41:55 PM

If Metroid Prime 3 is to be taken as canon - which it probably won't be! - then Mother Brain is just an Aurora Unit with a female personality. It is said that the AUs can be given male, female, or gender-neutral personalities.

I suppose this is the case, but it's never implied that Mother Brain has a personality in anything except Captain N. I guess that's your point, but I don't want Mother Brain to suddenly be a chatty bitch. I've had enough games where you play a solitary figure struggling against a taunting feminine AI.

sei · « **Reply #79 on:** June 12, 2009, 03:33:12 PM »

Quote from: Detonator on June 12, 2009, 03:14:25 PM

I've had enough games where you play a solitary figure struggling against a taunting feminine AI.

Liar.

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