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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3820 on: March 30, 2013, 04:10:21 PM »

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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3822 on: April 03, 2013, 12:37:00 PM »

THANKS, GEORGE.
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3823 on: April 03, 2013, 12:47:49 PM »

now i will never play the old republic 2
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3824 on: April 03, 2013, 01:24:46 PM »

or force unleashed 3
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3825 on: April 03, 2013, 01:25:39 PM »

or kinect star wars 2
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3826 on: April 03, 2013, 04:41:03 PM »

Technically Disney's only shuttering the studio, they're still going to slap the brand name onto anything Star Wars related developed by a third party.

Which is clearly different than what the last few posts have suggested the studio was going to do.
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3827 on: April 04, 2013, 06:04:52 PM »

Adam Orth, Creative Director at Microsoft Studios, publicly shits the bed.

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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3828 on: April 04, 2013, 06:43:07 PM »

Sweet.  I think EA just found its new CEO.

(seriously though Bal you do remember you've defended always-on requirements as being totally okay and not a problem at all, right?)
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3829 on: April 04, 2013, 06:55:14 PM »

Not universally. I think I defended Diablo III in that regard, but I wouldn't have defended SimCity had we discussed it. I would certainly never defend a whole game console being always online.
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3830 on: April 04, 2013, 07:34:22 PM »

While I do not agree with Bal's views on Diablo III, I am glad that they exist to help put into perspective why this is becoming increasingly stupid.
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3831 on: April 04, 2013, 07:51:35 PM »

I will say this about the Next Box. If it ships with built in 4G or better wireless support that is priced into the console in the same way the early Kindle models had you essentially buy permanent cellular support, to ensure that the consumer IS always online to the greatest extent possible, I would be slightly more on board with the concept, but they'd have to offer some seriously awesome services besides to actually sell me one. We all know that isn't going to happen, and that this is a totally cynical attempt at DRM, but I can at least dream they're trying something actually interesting with this.
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« Reply #3832 on: April 04, 2013, 07:55:46 PM »

I think that's really what this boils down to. Nobody's ever really trying to do anything with always online at all.

Lots of people have legitimate gripes about Steam, but ultimately Steam won, because Steam as a platform actually offers a number of significant benefits to the consumer and to small developers too.

Always-online systems could theoretically offer a variety of significant improvements for many games, but for the moment at least it's only being used as a label to cover bad DRM schemes with no upside at all.
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« Reply #3833 on: April 04, 2013, 08:26:29 PM »

I was typing a reply to that but then suddenly my router decided to stop recognizing my computer.  Because sometimes consumer routers just plain fuck up for no reason.  But hey, that's my problem, right?  And the fact that, even if I already owned a 720, I would at this point be less inclined to purchase and play games on the platform than on comparable platforms that don't have this issue - including Steam, which only authenticates at startup - certainly is of no concern to publishers who have to pay a licensing fee to get their game on it before they can even try to make a sale.

If it sounds like I wish that Microsoft would reconsider their stance, well, you're dead wrong.  I have no interest Microsoft gaming products and would love nothing more than to watch the entire division collapse from a self-inflicted wound.  Here's hoping it really shakes out that way.
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« Reply #3834 on: April 04, 2013, 08:30:15 PM »

Anyway, the original post that I managed to write because my computer is still mostly functional when not connected to a network:

I will say this about the Next Box. If it ships with built in 4G or better wireless support that is priced into the console in the same way the early Kindle models had you essentially buy permanent cellular support, to ensure that the consumer IS always online to the greatest extent possible, I would be slightly more on board with the concept, but they'd have to offer some seriously awesome services besides to actually sell me one. We all know that isn't going to happen, and that this is a totally cynical attempt at DRM, but I can at least dream they're trying something actually interesting with this.

I have a feeling that if that was on the table we'd have Eternal Sadface up there just saying, "That will not be an issue.  You'll see what I mean!" instead of vehemently refusing to see the difference between an inherent and an enforced point of failure (and also demonstrating that he's never heard of a cordless vacuum before).

Lots of people have legitimate gripes about Steam, but ultimately Steam won, because Steam as a platform actually offers a number of significant benefits to the consumer and to small developers too.

Not a direct comparison because Steam doesn't kick you out of an authenticated play session in the event of a connection failure (early reports say the 720 will only give you a 3-minute grace period - by comparison, even SimCity gave you 20).  Steam's benefits managed to outweigh its drawbacks, but they would not if Steam had implemented a scheme similar to this.
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3835 on: April 04, 2013, 09:06:32 PM »

I was typing a reply to that but then suddenly my router decided to stop recognizing my computer.  Because sometimes consumer routers just plain fuck up for no reason.  But hey, that's my problem, right?  And the fact that, even if I already owned a 720, I would at this point be less inclined to purchase and play games on the platform than on comparable platforms that don't have this issue - including Steam, which only authenticates at startup - certainly is of no concern to publishers who have to pay a licensing fee to get their game on it before they can even try to make a sale.

If it sounds like I wish that Microsoft would reconsider their stance, well, you're dead wrong.  I have no interest Microsoft gaming products and would love nothing more than to watch the entire division collapse from a self-inflicted wound.  Here's hoping it really shakes out that way.

The problem is this:

You're already looking at this same shit on a whole lot of PC games.

And there are rumors that the PS4 will have the same limitations.

If I were a betting man, I would not put my money on Nintendo stealing away all the PC/Xbox/PS customers who are sick of this crap.

And even if the Ouya gets its shit together and offers a better library than the one it's got, it doesn't have the hardware power that the other consoles have.


Basically, MS has just given Valve TWO huge openings to change the way people play video games.  And you know who else should be sitting up and paying attention right about now?  Mark Shuttleworth.  He thinks Amazon integration and a tablet OS are the best way to dig Ubuntu out of its money sink, well, bundling Steam into the default install would sure pick up a lot of curious new paying customers.


Realistically, though?  I think MS will hold its ground, Sony may very well do the same thing, desktop Linux will continue to make modest inroads at best, and the whole thing will just be one more step in the long slow decline of the market for dedicated gaming hardware.  The SteamBox COULD be a game-changer, and Valve's definitely weighing its options, but I don't expect them to come out with anything unless they're sure they can make it count.



To put it all more succinctly: as we already know, people will put up with all kinds of shit from Microsoft if there's insufficient competition in the marketplace.
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3836 on: April 04, 2013, 09:45:50 PM »

Last I heard the PS4 pulled a bunch of stupid shit on you at install that mostly just breaks right of first sale, but it leaves you alone after that.  If they're smart they'll backpedal from even the shit that they're rumored to be doing, and run an ad campaign on it to tie into their new focus on "real" gamers or whatever.
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3837 on: April 05, 2013, 07:11:09 AM »

Big "if".

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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3838 on: April 17, 2013, 08:49:57 AM »

I would be way more excited about a new Mario and Luigi game, Yoshi's Island 3, and A Link to the Past 2(!!!) if they didn't all look like Playstation-era 2.5D abortions.  Someone please remind Nintendo what a sprite is and that they still have enough money in the bank to use them in their games, especially given how goddamn cool sprite-based games look on the 3DS.
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Re: Game News Dump
« Reply #3839 on: April 17, 2013, 09:14:27 AM »

GOD DAMMIT NIKU!
A Link to the Past 2(!!!)
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/04/zelda-a-link-to-the-past-2/
Why won't you do my motherfucking google searches for me!?
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