Topic: Let's Get Healthy! (Read 6086 times)

Rico · « **Reply #20 on:** June 15, 2009, 03:28:47 PM »

Det has some good suggestions, though be very careful with cereal as a snack food. Even healthy stuff like Cheerios is packed-the-fuck full of calories.

Re: Going out: A pretty safe rule of thumb is that half of what's on your plate is a regular portion. This also gets you bonus delicious lunch.

The main reasons actual weight loss programs are effective (Weight Watchers; Jenny) are accountability and a schedule to help force habit changes--first you get your meals planned for you daily, then you plan them yourself and place frozen food orders. The whole time you're supposed to have x amount of fruits/veggies but they don't just send you frozen ones; you're expected to buy fresh from the store. Etc.

Brentai · « **Reply #21 on:** June 15, 2009, 03:32:39 PM »

The Weight Watchers program is just an abstract way to count calories, which is perfectly fine.

If you're actually trying to lose weight and not just eat more vegetables I can give you a worksheet with a million numbers on it. Alternately, you can just eat more vegetables.

Brentai · « **Reply #22 on:** June 16, 2009, 12:45:26 PM »

I JUST RAN TWO MILES AND THEN I HAD A JUMBO CHILI DOG FROM CARL'S JR AND A BACON CHEESEBURGER AND HALF A LITER OF COKE

WHY AM I FAT I'M EXERCISING????????????

Pacobird · « **Reply #23 on:** June 16, 2009, 12:53:31 PM »

The biggest difficulty I see people having when they try to lose weight is maintaining enough protein intake. Protein is fucking crucial to weightloss because that's what breaks up fat cells and carbs. I know a ton of fat-ass vegetarians who keep gaining weight because all the calories just sit there.

This is not to say vegetarianism is a bad route to weight loss. It isn't. You just need to be sure you have a protein bar or something, or a bunch of beans or nuts.

Also, as far as exercise, cardio is great for improving overall health but I've consistently found weight training to burn fat faster, because maintaining muscle mass takes a TON of calories. So, if you get winded going up a flight of stairs the elliptical is your friend but if you're actually in decent health other than your flab, you would do well to prioritize weight-training in any workout regime you have time for.

Brentai · « **Reply #24 on:** June 16, 2009, 01:02:38 PM »

Weight training itself doesn't burn that much, it's having the muscle that does it. So it's not going to help much if you're already

or simply unable to get there for some reason.

Also there's the fact that if you put too much importance into weight rather than actual fat you're going to start off wondering why the hell you're gaining pounds like some sort of human katamari.

RE: protein - the most successful diet I ever went on involved replacing all my snack food with unshelled/unsalted peanuts. You'd think the fat in them would ruin you but it doesn't really work out that way, plus they're low-carb if you prescribe to that bullshit. Mostly, though, the high protein content makes you hella healthy, and the fact that you have to shell every single one means you can eat them all day and not really go overboard as far as actual food intake. Plus: peanuts are delicious.

Pacobird · « **Reply #25 on:** June 16, 2009, 01:15:47 PM »

peanuts are the shit. Those, fruit, and salsa with low-salt, whole grain tortilla chips are basically the holy trinity of healthy snacks

And yeah, some people can't build muscle mass easily, but more often than not that's dietary (i.e. lack of protein). Ultimately, diet is way more important to ANY workout routine than what you're actually doing, imo.

And the best workout in the world is swimming. Doing 20 or 30 laps a day will trim you up faster than pretty much anything else out there, but getting to the pool + taking showers before and after + etc. means its way too much of a time commitment for most people.

Mongrel · « **Reply #26 on:** June 16, 2009, 01:41:16 PM »

Oh damn, that reminds me that I keep forgetting to sign up for swimming lessons.

James Edward Smith · « **Reply #27 on:** June 16, 2009, 02:02:19 PM »

I don't understand snack foods and never have. Three meals a day is more than enough food for me. I just don't get what circumstance comes up where someone wants a snack. Anytime I am hungry, it's because I missed a meal or I haven't eatten it yet and then I am hungry. But once I eat breakfast, I'm good until lunch and then when lunch is over, I'm fine until dinner and so on.

The only time I ever eat a "snack" is if I stay up past midnight I'll feel like some popcorn or something once 1 or 2 o'clock rolls around.

Lady Duke · « **Reply #28 on:** June 16, 2009, 02:12:55 PM »

Kazz says you don't know what it's like to be a glutton.

Brentai · « **Reply #29 on:** June 16, 2009, 02:44:50 PM »

No one knows what it's like
To be a fat man
To have a jigglan'
Behind and thighs

No one knows what it's like
To be unsated
To have a cravin'
For chili fries

But my dreeeeeams
They aren't as empty
As my stomach feels to be

I have ro-olls
On my sides
My love has handles, hang onto me

No one know what it's like
To have these cravings
Like I do
And I crave food

No one's weight is as hard
On their ankles
Now my penis
Can't show through

But my dreeeeeams
They aren't as empty
As my stomach feels to be

I have ro-olls
On my sides
My love has handles, hang onto me

Is that some French's? Crack it open!
Before I drown in my own drool
While I smile, get some distance
Before you smell something uncool

And if I swallow what I didn't mean to
Put your whole arm down my throat
And I know this shit is fattening
But I'm so hungry I could eat a goat

No one knows what it's like
To be a fat man
To have a jigglan'
Behind and thighs

Büge · « **Reply #30 on:** June 16, 2009, 02:47:19 PM »

Nuts are good. I prefer almonds, myself. Raw, of course. A handful of almonds and an apple is a good between-meals snack. A word of caution: If you eat a carbohydrate food (i.e. rice, fruit), get some protein with it. The protein makes your body digest it slower so you feel full for longer. If you only get the carbs, your glycemic index will rise, you'll get Type 2 Diabetes and they'll have to saw your legs off.

what paco said

Quote from: P. Birdy on June 16, 2009, 12:53:31 PM

This is not to say vegetarianism is a bad route to weight loss. It isn't. You just need to be sure you have a protein bar or something, or a bunch of beans or nuts.

There's always tofu.

Oh wait.

Mongrel · « **Reply #31 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:18:42 PM »

Quote from: Geo T. Hermal on June 16, 2009, 02:02:19 PM

I don't understand snack foods and never have. Three meals a day is more than enough food for me. I just don't get what circumstance comes up where someone wants a snack. Anytime I am hungry, it's because I missed a meal or I haven't eatten it yet and then I am hungry. But once I eat breakfast, I'm good until lunch and then when lunch is over, I'm fine until dinner and so on.

The only time I ever eat a "snack" is if I stay up past midnight I'll feel like some popcorn or something once 1 or 2 o'clock rolls around.

Yeah, but I've seen your house. You have 'real' meals. I mean REAL meals. The kind people talk about as a lost legend of middle class living. Maybe not always, but most of the time I'm sure. And a lot better than what most folks get.

I don't know what if you fully appreciate what you've got, but I sure hope you've tried to learn as much of your mom's recipe skill as possible (I seem to recall that you do know some decent recepies).

Also, Brent

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #32 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:20:08 PM »

This thread really needs a Darkwing Duck icon.

Mothra · « **Reply #33 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:53:14 PM »

Seconding everything Det said. Make several small, permanent changes, and stick with them until they become habit. Simply changing out the food your crave for something healthier is usually enough, and after a while, you develop enough of a taste for whatever your alternative is that you can think about craving THOSE instead of delicious deep-fried sticks of butter.

You want nachos, you think about how good something you cook at home can be. BAM. Craving changed.

Quote from: Lady Duke on June 16, 2009, 02:12:55 PM

Kazz says you don't know what it's like to be a glutton.

Yeah, it's a habit thing. If you'd ever been a fat fuck you would know that you pretty much work your way up to needing a fourth meal every day - usually on account of eating 'cause your bored and/or discovering Cheez-Its - and trained your body to demand more. You're annoyingly hungry all the time if you don't snack, at least until your body readjusts after a couple weeks.

Exercise takes a long damn time to stop sucking and start really feeling good; for me, it was three months before I no longer loathed running. I recommend doing weights if you're up for it, if for no other reason than that they tend to visibly show results faster and actively make you want to keep going.

I started getting back to three days a week at the campus gym around December, running 20 (now 30) minutes, crunches, and weights, and I genuinely feel a hell of a lot better. It feels dang pretty worth it right now.

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Quote from: Detonator on June 14, 2009, 11:05:51 PM
Switch to water. Force yourself to like it. Trust me, it's more than worth it.

Yes yes yes

I've been drinking not much else but cold water for a while now, and it kills thirst like a motherfucker. Get a water bottle (I use an empty Vitamin Water 20oz'r), keep it overnight in the fridge, drink when thirsty.

Lady Duke · « **Reply #34 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:56:15 PM »

Pffft, just go swimming instead of running. Good exercise and more fun than running.

Mothra · « **Reply #35 on:** June 16, 2009, 08:01:03 PM »

If you can swim, swim. Running really, really sucks. I do it because our school doesn't have a pool and it's a skill I decided I wanted to have after learning from Jurassic Park III that raptors can clock up to sixty miles an hour (in the open). If you're cool with being savagely torn to shreds when those fuckers get loose then yeah sure go for it.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #36 on:** June 16, 2009, 08:03:48 PM »

I went for a run today. I hadn't done any running for the past 3 days, so I thought I'd be okay but then my legs were a smorgasbord of pain and I had to abort my trip to the park, instead went around the block and came home and played TF2. My legs felt stiff and useless. Also my thighs are chaffing and that is so uncomfortable it is difficult to sit.

Also the Wii Fit called me a fatty and I can only do about 5 pushups a day. Why have I let my body deteriorate and atrophy to a point of uselessness?

Lady Duke · « **Reply #37 on:** June 16, 2009, 08:04:16 PM »

Yeah, but I'll escape those raptors in the water. And I'll be fine as long as there aren't any water-happy dinos that follow.

Quote from: Constantine on June 16, 2009, 08:03:48 PM

Also the Wii Fit called me a fatty and I can only do about 5 pushups a day. Why have I let my body deteriorate and atrophy to a point of uselessness?

It's 'cause you have a girlfriend.

Guild · « **Reply #38 on:** June 16, 2009, 08:07:41 PM »

I get healthier when I'm getting some regularly.

Quote from: Kabbage on June 16, 2009, 08:01:03 PM

If you can swim, swim.

As anyone who knows me knows, I love being submerged in water. I will swim in freezing cold water because I love swimming so much. It's the greatest thing ever.

Mothra · « **Reply #39 on:** June 16, 2009, 08:12:22 PM »

Quote from: Lady Duke on June 16, 2009, 08:04:16 PM

Yeah, but I'll escape those raptors in the water. And I'll be fine as long as there aren't any water-happy dinos that follow.

Uh well they're pretty damn clever so I wouldn't count on their sort getting stumped on something deceptively straightforward like operating a sailboat or reeling in a fishing net.

If you'll recall Adam Grant's lecture from JP3:

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Raptors were fierce, intelligent and socially sophisticated. They were able to hunt in numbers and coordinate their efforts. Were it not for the cataclysmic events which overtook them it's entirely possible that Raptors, rather than humans, would have become the dominant species on this planet

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