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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #440 on: May 24, 2008, 04:08:39 AM »

Here's one thought that crossed my mind.

After her, there's no one else even remotely close in terms of support or votes in this primary. If something DID happen to Obama, but she had conceded the race already and officially dropped out, does anybody really think the Democratic caucus wouldn't find a way to then give the race to her?

Hell, there isn't even anybody else LEFT in the race other than those two. When RFK was shot, Humphries et al were all still in it, so the precendent is not in fact the same. It's not like there's a democratic Ron Paul hanging on to the bitter end, who would theoretically get the nomination by default.
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #441 on: May 24, 2008, 06:52:25 AM »

It would have been a more significant comment if she'd made her remark about Bill first, then, turning and looking straight into the camera, mentioned about how Robert Kennedy, another prominent front runner sure to wrap up the nomination, had been violently assassinated in June at the hands of one person who probably thought he was doing what was best for the nation.  Then turned back to the press without missing a beat and continuing on.

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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #442 on: May 24, 2008, 10:55:28 PM »

You know, it gets even more nauseating when you remember that RFK's flagship issue was Civil Rights.
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #443 on: May 26, 2008, 02:08:24 AM »

She might be on to something. Namely, that Obama has failed to win over an important constituency - the people who want to kill him.

She's probably already put it together, just like Johnson did with JFK.
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #444 on: May 26, 2008, 07:39:36 AM »

To be fair, Clinton hasn't won over the people who want to kill her either.
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #445 on: May 26, 2008, 08:50:17 AM »

Well, see, she is leading in people who want to kill her that matter. Why can't the SuperDelegates understand this?

And from the new Beast:
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #446 on: May 26, 2008, 08:58:32 AM »

This made me think for a moment that a steel cage deathmatch would put a quick end to this contest, but then I figured Clinton was the type to go for the nads so maybe that's not such a good idea.
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #447 on: May 26, 2008, 10:04:52 AM »

Speaking of dying and all that, what happens if McCain is taken out of the race by sickness, natural death, etc., and Ron Paul is the only Republican left?
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #448 on: May 26, 2008, 10:45:37 AM »

Could... could all those Chuck Norris facts be... bullshit?

* When Chuck Norris does push-ups, he doesn't push himself up; he's too old.
* Chuck Norris ruins every party he goes to because he is a born again fundie.
* When Chuck Norris endorses a candidate, it's usually Mike Huckabee

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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #449 on: May 26, 2008, 11:42:54 AM »

Speaking of dying and all that, what happens if McCain is taken out of the race by sickness, natural death, etc., and Ron Paul is the only Republican left?
It'd probably go to Romney.

Though word on the street is that McCain's in good shape.
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #450 on: May 26, 2008, 11:54:20 AM »

Nevermind that he underwent surgery three months ago and never told anyone. And while we're at it, let us ignore his skin cancer too.

After her, there's no one else even remotely close in terms of support or votes in this primary. If something DID happen to Obama, but she had conceded the race already and officially dropped out, does anybody really think the Democratic caucus wouldn't find a way to then give the race to her?

This is a shortening window that is still open to her, until he picks a running mate. Even in the event of this happening, you'd have two or three Democrats coming out of the woodwork, each proclaiming they were his chosen running mate. Doubtful this would hold up to the DNC unless Axelrod & Michelle went all out for one of them.


Speaking of dying and all that, what happens if McCain is taken out of the race by sickness, natural death, etc., and Ron Paul is the only Republican left?

If I'm reading this right, Huckabee & Romney are neck and neck for second place.
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #451 on: May 26, 2008, 12:22:41 PM »

Nevermind that he underwent surgery three months ago and never told anyone. And while we're at it, let us ignore his skin cancer too.
Why should we? The article doesn't.
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #452 on: May 26, 2008, 01:12:22 PM »

So then what the hell is this 'street' you speak of? The physicians arranged by his campaign? The ones that listed off a laundry list of medications, admitted to not performing any mental health tests, explained away the giant incision on his face, and never accounted for his secondary melanoma?
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #453 on: May 26, 2008, 01:27:13 PM »

Obama will follow on Kennedy's footsteps once again, but instead of using spotlights to make Nixon sweat profusely on stage, he will use them to make McCain erupt in countless tumors. It will be terrifying.

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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #454 on: May 26, 2008, 02:04:27 PM »

So then what the hell is this 'street' you speak of? The physicians arranged by his campaign? The ones that listed off a laundry list of medications, admitted to not performing any mental health tests, explained away the giant incision on his face, and never accounted for his secondary melanoma?

Whoa, what? What's all this, all of a sudden? All I said was that this (generally favorable) summary of McCain's health has been publicized, and, despite your insistence to the contrary, it does not at all ignore the question of his skin cancer.
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #455 on: May 26, 2008, 02:50:14 PM »

Hmm.  Full article seems to suggest that his personal physicians are giving him a clean bill of health, but public physicians he's seen, not so much.  Plus he refuses to let anyone check and see if his brain's going to go Reagan on us in a couple of years.  Good looking-out there.
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #456 on: May 26, 2008, 03:16:11 PM »

No worries. Twenty reporters had access to 1,500 pages of documents for 180 minutes. No need to press further on the issue, even as his campaign admits they dumped it on Memorial Weekend on purpose.


despite your insistence to the contrary, it does not at all ignore the question of his skin cancer.

I've never insisted on anything in regards to the article. Your coming away from this saying that it is now common knowledge that he is in good shape, when your linked article paints a picture to the contrary on multiple fronts.
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #457 on: May 26, 2008, 06:22:39 PM »

I've never said anything except that there are news articles, published recently, describing an event which lends a certain degree of credibility - not even certainty! - to the proposition that he's not too old to run for office. It seemed relevant, in light of Spaco's hypothetical scenario. We're all adults here; we can judge the value of news for ourselves.

I still don't understand why you suggested that there was any widespread ignoring of his skin cancer going on, when the article mentions it quite explicitly.
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« Reply #458 on: May 26, 2008, 06:34:17 PM »

We're all adults here; we can judge the value of news for ourselves.

Then you can see that the article is not "generally favorable" afterall, but a reflection of one camp saying he is "in good shape" as you put it, and many facts weighing in opposite of such a conclusion.

Leaving it at "McCain's in good shape." flies in the face of not only the cancer, but numerous other oddities and concerns. Makes you wonder which of the running mates chosen by McCain & Obama will carry more impact into the election, eh?
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Re: Primary Wars
« Reply #459 on: May 26, 2008, 06:51:26 PM »

Well at least he didn't get polio.
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