Topic: Primary Wars (Read 45798 times)

SCD · « **Reply #80 on:** March 02, 2008, 04:53:13 PM »

Quote from: Iron_Mongrel on February 29, 2008, 07:44:27 PM

Hey, I already won my primary race.

So I come home after a hard weekend starting Thursday of all work and 6 hours of sleep to read that in the back of the ferry. That actually gave me warm fuzzies. I think I've gone from betting beer on him winning the election last november (2x 12 packs of the local brew) to liking the guy.

I just hope he doesn't choose a religiously-zealous freak as his running mate.

Sharkey · « **Reply #81 on:** March 02, 2008, 05:21:52 PM »

I just hope he dies a week before the polls open.

Mongrel · « **Reply #82 on:** March 03, 2008, 06:00:32 PM »

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #83 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:54:29 PM »

Brentai · « **Reply #84 on:** March 03, 2008, 10:10:04 PM »

Thad · « **Reply #85 on:** March 03, 2008, 11:01:03 PM »

...I think Batman had a cameo in that story.

Norondor · « **Reply #86 on:** March 04, 2008, 12:21:15 AM »

Marvin the Last Martian did, but I don't think Batman was anywhere to be found.

Thad · « **Reply #87 on:** March 04, 2008, 01:42:00 PM »

He at least shows up in Preludes and Nocturnes SOMEwhere. I think it's early on, when Morpheus is still getting his bearings after spending a century imprisoned. I'd find it but I loaned my copy out.

Anyway. On-topic: Clinton did a good job on Daily Show last night. She was friendly, she said positive things about Obama, and all in all she came across much better than she has in recent weeks. Wish she'd ditch the Mondale red-phone crap, the histrionic mockery about the clouds opening, and all that other off-putting nastiness and just be like that all the time.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #88 on:** March 04, 2008, 02:03:02 PM »

Don't forget doctoring footage to make Obama look blacker.

Thad · « **Reply #89 on:** March 04, 2008, 11:19:21 PM »

Clinton's pulled off both Ohio and Texas, plus Rhode Island. Obama's still up, but things are still roughly where they were six weeks ago.

On the plus side, Kucinich gets to keep his seat.

TA · « **Reply #90 on:** March 04, 2008, 11:49:54 PM »

According to CNN and the Texas Office of the Secretary of State:
Clinton's pulled off Ohio, netting 16 delegates - 62 her, 48 Obama. Clinton's pulled off Rhode Island, netting 4 delegates - 12 her, 8 Obama. Obama took Vermont, netting 3 delegates - 9 him, 6 her. So before Texas, she closed the gap by 17 today.

About two thirds of Texas's delegates are divvied up by Primaries, and Clinton won that, but that's netting her one delegate - she's getting 63, Obama's getting 62. There's still 67 delegates to be divided up by the Caucuses, and those are still being counted - but with 34% reporting, CNN's putting Obama winning 55/45. Still have to see how the caususes will distribute them, but this isn't really a big day for Clinton at all. She's still WAY behind.

SCD · « **Reply #91 on:** March 05, 2008, 12:20:11 AM »

So, why am I starting to get the feeling that I've read all of this in a Warren Ellis comic before?

Thad · « **Reply #92 on:** March 05, 2008, 01:26:07 PM »

Nader came across pretty well on Daily Show too.

I've never really bought the "he's only running to feed his ego" claims, and this did a good job of summarizing why: all he did was methodically list his issues and his reasons for running. Obviously he's running for President to grab attention, but he doesn't want the attention for himself, he wants it for his pet issues. It's the media, not Nader himself, who have made it all about him, and I think that shows when he's interviewed by someone who doesn't take that tack.

That said, I still don't think he should be running. I understand his reasoning a little better now -- SOMEbody has to run to expose what's wrong with the electoral system -- but, like it or not, his name's tainted now. Jon Stewart may be willing to let him voice his concerns in a rational manner, but most people won't. They won't listen to him anymore on this issue.

S D S · « **Reply #93 on:** March 05, 2008, 07:12:00 PM »

Looks like Obama’s walking away with a net delegate gain from Texas. It would have been nice for him to win the primary vote, but I think the state did pretty good for Obama, all things considered.

Thad · « **Reply #94 on:** March 05, 2008, 09:22:05 PM »

Jonathan Alter counts delegates and says that even if Clinton has huge wins in every state from here on out, she's still going to be a fair bit behind, and it would take huge wins in hypothetical Florida and Michigan do-overs, or superdelegate defections, for her to win.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #95 on:** March 05, 2008, 11:10:14 PM »

You know, I was hearing a sound-byte from her on NPR this morning, where she was basically saying how the state of Ohio and the nation had made it clear that they want Hillary to run. And all I'm thinking is "Do the number of delegates, the actual popular vote count, and the number of states won not matter?" Because really, Obama is leading in all counts right now.

Of course, that might change if Florida and Michigans' delegates were counted, which Hillary only wants to do because they voted for her.

Thad · « **Reply #96 on:** March 05, 2008, 11:29:26 PM »

I support giving them a redo. It's not the voters' fault their party reps broke the rules. Obviously you can't accept the votes as-is, especially from Michigan where Obama wasn't even on the ballot, but I say give it another shot and let it count.

Mongrel · « **Reply #97 on:** March 09, 2008, 09:09:22 PM »

^_____^

Royal☭ · « **Reply #98 on:** March 09, 2008, 09:54:13 PM »

That is shameless. America needs fear-mongering we can believe in, not fear-mongering you can xerox.

SCD · « **Reply #99 on:** March 10, 2008, 12:22:18 AM »

So from this vantage point, it looks like it's still anyone's game so long as Clinton can point out why the evening Caucuses were unfair in comparison to the Primaries...

So I got to ask if anyone out there is familiar with a Greek playwright known as Aeschylus? A recent article I read pointed out how this whole thing can turn out just like this guy's play, "Seven Against Thebes".

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