Topic: Shit Days (Read 227692 times)

Brentai · « **Reply #2860 on:** July 07, 2012, 12:55:04 PM »

Honestly in practice even experienced managers at large and successful businesses haven't really keened into the fact that it's better to tell a sick person to go home than to make them (and everyone around them) soldier through it. If I weren't on a phone (yes, at work) I'd link to my comments last Winter to the effect of actually wanting to call someone about the place being a health hazard.

Anyway if I have to throw in my two cents here it's that I've never worked a service position that's not worth trading for a different one at the drop of a hat. The common knowledge that job hopping is bad only really applies to positions where you're expected to be an intellectual property asset; nobody's going to give a shit what you did or where you did it as a drone and will only look at your total time in the field.

Also what someone else said, ALWAYS find a new job and THEN quit, NEVER the reverse EVER. EVER.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2861 on:** July 07, 2012, 01:23:13 PM »

I think we're also dancing round the people with chronic conditions that are non-infectious. Mental issues, recurring migranes or similarly debilitating conditions, even serious stuff like cancer or [noun] sysndrome/disease.

There is quite simply no sympathy for that. If you reveal such things beforehand, you probably won't be hired for anything in the first place, because nobody wants a "problem worker".

I'd love to have better news, but people in that position basically are always going to have a shit time of it.

Brentai · « **Reply #2862 on:** July 07, 2012, 01:44:14 PM »

I think it's less that we're dancing around it and more that we don't find "Welp, you're fucked" to be a very productive response.

Stush · « **Reply #2863 on:** July 07, 2012, 02:18:07 PM »

I'm lucky that in most of the jobs I've worked at, they've realised that it's better to stay home sick than make everyone else, or heaven forbid, a customer sick.

I mean, sure, it means more work for the other people, but it's not very respectful to give someone your illness, either.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2864 on:** July 07, 2012, 04:21:30 PM »

Quote from: Brentai on July 07, 2012, 01:44:14 PM

I think it's less that we're dancing around it and more that we don't find "Welp, you're fucked" to be a very productive response.

Well I hadn't seen so much as a passing acknowledgement of the phenomenon. I figured I'd say something instead of just randomly making assumptions about your opinions.

I'm not making that excuse for myself (only day I've taken off sick this year was when I basically had dystentery) and I honestly don't even think Nex is in that boat either. Six days is high, but to me it sounds like the stress at that job is actually making him sick rather than anything else.

I appreciate the respect problem and also the logic of not infecting your co-workers, but some workers have more complicated and intractable problems and it just bothers me that people often just pretend that stuff doesn't exist.

Shinra · « **Reply #2865 on:** July 07, 2012, 04:38:09 PM »

Quote from: Mongrel on July 07, 2012, 01:23:13 PM

I think we're also dancing round the people with chronic conditions that are non-infectious. Mental issues, recurring migranes or similarly debilitating conditions, even serious stuff like cancer or [noun] sysndrome/disease.

There is quite simply no sympathy for that. If you reveal such things beforehand, you probably won't be hired for anything in the first place, because nobody wants a "problem worker".

I'd love to have better news, but people in that position basically are always going to have a shit time of it.

Make it to 1 year on the job working full time and they can't fire you for missing work (For illness, anyway) anymore, at least, in the US anyway. FMLA is your right and if you don't apply for it the day you hit the 1 year mark you're a fool.

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I appreciate the respect problem and also the logic of not infecting your co-workers, but some workers have more complicated and intractable problems and it just bothers me that people often just pretend that stuff doesn't exist.

The other half of my issues this year not specifically related to staph have been because of bipolar related insomnia, so I absolutely know what this is like. Some of my employers have been very understanding (like this one) others have definitely given me a hard time over it. This is why FMLA exists. I wish there wasn't a one-year barrier to entry, as it kind of screws people with recurring issues, but if you can make it that far you're at least protected from being fired for having a chronic condition.

I'm one month away from a full year on the job and boy am I counting those days.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2866 on:** July 07, 2012, 04:51:12 PM »

They can't fire you for things protected by FMLA (and there are similar protections up here, though not quite the same), but any boss who wants to fire an employee can find a way.

And yes, as you pointed out, you need to make through that first year.

Shinra · « **Reply #2867 on:** July 07, 2012, 04:52:27 PM »

Quote from: Mongrel on July 07, 2012, 04:51:12 PM

They can't fire you for things protected by FMLA (and there are similar protections up here, though not quite the same), but any boss who wants to fire an employee can find a way.

And yes, as you pointed out, you need to make through that first year.

Yeah, but if it's a bunk reason and they can't prove it isn't you're entitled to unemployment, so at least you have a little income while jobless without prospects.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2868 on:** July 07, 2012, 04:55:26 PM »

Well, this is true.

And managers being shitty and creating imaginary reasons to fire people is hardly limited to just health issues. I've seen people railroaded so many times they oughtta give me an Engineer's license.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #2869 on:** July 07, 2012, 05:35:15 PM »

I actually didn't know about the FMLA thing. I'm completely oblivious to things like that. As a matter of fact I don't even have my own bank account yet (my dad and I share the same name so he just cashes my checks for me).

I'm pretty sure that like 90% of my problems are physical manifestations of stress, which is why I am taking medicine and now that this is becoming a serious issue I'm looking for psychologists in my area.

I trust that somehow things are just going to work out, but getting there is taking a toll.

François · « **Reply #2870 on:** July 08, 2012, 12:01:11 AM »

Sounds to me like you're trying to enable positive change in your life, in this and in looking for a new job. Things are clearly rough now but you're working to get them better and fundamentally that's about the best anyone can be doing.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #2871 on:** July 12, 2012, 01:15:14 PM »

I made it to work today. Got a flat tire 1/3 of the way through my shift. LOL.

Man, when it rains, it pours

Mongrel · « **Reply #2872 on:** July 12, 2012, 02:54:13 PM »

if you knew how to change it, you can at least consider yourself superior to 45% of your peers!

Zaratustra · « **Reply #2873 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:37:13 AM »

It seems the more I advance in life, the harder simple things become. I can't work anymore.

I usually need 20-30 minutes by myself before I can concentrate and do some actual work. When I lived in my parents house, that period was being constantly reset by parents that felt that boy surely was doing NOTHING just sitting at the computer like that.

Now, it's neurotic co-workers that don't realize a manager's purpose is to keep the working people calm and unworried and a hormonally overloaded wife that breaks into tears if I as much as suggest she order pizza for dinner on her own.

I wonder what it feels like when you bash your head against the wall so hard it breaks your skull.

JDigital · « **Reply #2874 on:** July 16, 2012, 10:02:23 AM »

Really hurts! Plus, you get blood everywhere.

Brentai · « **Reply #2875 on:** July 16, 2012, 10:36:37 AM »

Yeah, I've gotten to the point where I just need to specifically itemize every single thing I have to do so I can dash directly to it during the periods when people let me deal with my own stuff. And then I have to balance THAT with the need to do something besides transform into some kind of A-type robot, so that when people interrupt me in the middle of something it's 50/50 going to be something non-productive, so I get a whole lot of WHY YOU SO LAZY BRENTAI?

Take pleasure in all that you have, because it's all that you have.

A² · « **Reply #2876 on:** July 16, 2012, 12:25:11 PM »

Car broke down
Smashed face against fence
almost got mugged
was suppsoed to be aweek long vacation.
fweeeeeeeeeeeee

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #2877 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:30:44 PM »

So I had explosive diarrhea today I wasn't able to get to a bathroom in time.

While I was downtown. In public.

Miles away from home.

Lottel · « **Reply #2878 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:32:39 PM »

Oh shit

Nickasummers · « **Reply #2879 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:42:38 PM »

Quote from: Lottel on July 16, 2012, 02:32:39 PM

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