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[MadMAxJr]

Turns out the 3D glasses give me dizziness and migraines.

The film itself had highs and lows. Vivid colors, detailed scenery, and interesting mechanical designs were all slick.  Plot wasn't the most gripping thing ever, feels a bit like Cameron saw some anime and thought "I can do that!" and [spoiler]"Lets kill off most of the protagonists!"[/spoiler]

*** Short Version of Plot***


The whole beginning feels rushed.  Shut up Shinji, get in the Na'vi.  Current state of humanity is kept very brief.

Humans want resources.  Blue guys are in the way.

Hero: Okay, I'm gonna be a blue guy, I'll go talk to them.  For three months.

Corp Guy & Military Guy: Diplomacy takes too long, lets just use the hired guns!

War.  Ever want to see a bunch of Apache Gunships fight indians?

More movies need giant robot knife fights.

End.

It takes two and a half hours (plus 30 minutes of previews) to do that.

[Cthulhu-chan]

Ever want to see a bunch of Apache Gunships fight indians?

No.

More movies need giant robot knife fights.

[Büge]

Wow, Spoony's review hit a lot of the same points as you, Frocto.

[Mongrel]

I'm drawing a blank right now on science-fiction movies from the past decade with writing that matched the quality of lavish special effects we're now capable of.

I know it's just my cynical brain blocking things out and that there must've been a FEW movies that used effects to beautify an already-good story rather than hide the lack of one, so uh... name some? Ones that aren't remakes or adaptations? Please? For the love of god?

[Miss Cat Ears]

Avatar sucked, and why were the humanoids the only creatures on that planet to evolve without their blowholes/gills on their necks?  Wouldn't that be some kind of indication as to the type of air they are breathing on that planet as well as the necessary body parts needed to process it into something useful?

[Rosencrantz]

(the bows which are never actually used to hunt wildlife once in the entire movie)

Just saw the movie. This was probably the least of your complaints, but there was a scene where the girl taught the main guy to hunt an animal with a bow and respect nature and blah blah blah. Anyway, back to the complaints.

I want to see a movie where the cool technology and robots from this movie are the good guys, because those were really awesome robots and I wanna see them again. I guess that'd be too much like Independence Day meets Matrix 3.

I can't believe they actually called it Unobtanium, like in The Core. 

Summary: Pretty but heavy-handed.

[Mongrel]

Wait, this movie has a substance called "Unobtainium?" Did they have Stan-fucking-Lee on staff as a writer?

[Miss Cat Ears]

It was really bad.  I don't even remember that they said WHAT they wanted the unobtainium for.  It was just shitty.

I didn't even think it was that pretty tbh.  I mean I like things that are really pretty, but say I'm watching anime.  I'd rather watch a pretty-people anime than say, Serial Experiments Lain, because even if it's good it's just not pretty to look at.  And I thought the blue people and all the animals were not pretty.

[Friday]

I'm drawing a blank right now on science-fiction movies from the past decade with writing that matched the quality of lavish special effects we're now capable of.

Does the (original) Matrix count? If it does, it's the only one I can think of.

[Büge]

Yeeeeeeeah, I couldn't go into that film (or any film for that matter with plot elements like 'Unobtainium') without my suspension of disbelief snapping like Gwen Stacy's neck.

EDIT: Con sarn it, Miss Cat Ears!

EDIT EDIT: AND FRIDAY!

[Rosencrantz]

It was really bad.  I don't even remember that they said WHAT they wanted the unobtainium for.  It was just shitty.

That's the thing. They NEVER said what it was for. Humans want it, and apparently humans also killed all "the green" on Earth. Humans suck, blah blah blah, except for scientists, but while they're nice, they just don't get it according to the natives.

EDIT: [spoiler]I thought it was pretty creepy how both the Na'vi and the planet could just up and control animals if they wanted to. I know they're not sentient, but at least humans have to actually get animals to accept them or raise them from birth or domesticate them for generations for these kind of results.[/spoiler]

[Miss Cat Ears]

EDIT: [spoiler]I thought it was pretty creepy how both the Na'vi and the planet could just up and control animals if they wanted to. I know they're not sentient, but at least humans have to actually get animals to accept them or raise them from birth or domesticate them for generations for these kind of results.[/spoiler]

Agreed. [spoiler]And that's without mentioning that they went on and on and on about how an animal has to CHOOSE you, otherwise it will never work, they won't let you do anything... but in reality, all you had to do was look at them or jump on their back (big dragon) and plug right in and they became mindless vehicles.[/spoiler]

Plus Sigourney Weaver's avatar was just weird looking.  It was so weird looking that it made me uncomfortable just to see it on screen.  I will probably have nightmares about it at some point.

EDIT: Con sarn it, Miss Cat Ears!

>:3

[Rosencrantz]

I read an article somewhere with a good point: Pandora is the most xenophobic planet (well, moon) ever. [spoiler]Every living thing is connected to the same neural network, so the humans are just a virus and all the species instantly, inherently hate them - there was never a chance for a peaceful co-existence, even if the humans stayed far away from any inhabited area and never bothered the natives.[/spoiler]

[Mongrel]

I'm drawing a blank right now on science-fiction movies from the past decade with writing that matched the quality of lavish special effects we're now capable of.

Does the (original) Matrix count? If it does, it's the only one I can think of.

I actually hated the Matrix (and not just because of Keanu), but I must grudgingly admit to that being technically correct.

So long as you don't include the sequels, when it became some kind of WHITE WOLF GAMES, THE MOVIE!

I just feel robbed, I mean, the previous generation got stuff like Star Wars, and we get stuff like.... the Star Wars sequels.  I keep thinking it's just an old man's gripes, but I really can't think of any blow-me-away awesome movies from the last ten years where they used the technology to tell an awesome story, as opposed staring at this giant pile of CGI jizz and kind of musing.... "Hmmm.... this is really pretty.... maybe we could tell some kind of story with this stuff?"

[Friday]

Well, if we go outside of Sci-Fi, you can count the LotR movies. Or at least the first one.

But yeah, most CGI movies are about how much goddamn garbage you can fit onto the screen.

Fuck that noise.

[Mongrel]

Well, if we go outside of Sci-Fi, you can count the LotR movies. Or at least the first one.

But yeah, most CGI movies are about how much goddamn garbage you can fit onto the screen.

Fuck that noise.

Well, leaving aside my horribly book-only fanboyism of Tolkien (i.e. I don't like the movies), the LotR movies aren't a new story (see my crack about remakes above).

Amusingly, if we're going to talk about just straight CGI, rather than live-action movies with special effects, then just about anything Pixar made in the past decade blew the doors off of everything else.

[Niku]

if we're just talking about effects and not specifically sci-fi

pixar.

good night.

[Niku]

fuck you mongrel

[Mongrel]

[Büge]

horribly book-only fanboyism of Tolkien (i.e. I don't like the movies)

Hey-dol-merry-dol-ring-ding-a-dillo!