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Sour Gropes
« on: April 25, 2008, 06:51:14 AM »

So, uh. Anybody read that guy The Ferret's blog? There's discussion going around about him and a group of friends who started this Open-Source Boob thing at ConFusion. And the aftershocks are resonating throughout Livejournal and the internet.

Like here.

And here.

And here.

And here.

If it was his intention to raise a dialogue about women's bodies, I think he succeeded. He's still an a-hole, though.
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2008, 07:54:17 AM »

Eh, he has good ideas sometimes.

I've only read the thing sketchily, but frankly, this seems to be just a higher grade of those girls that wave FREE HUGS signs in anime conventions. Boob-grabbing is a precious thing and should be earned, if only in exchange for a shot of Cuervo.

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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 01:22:35 PM »

*Friday holds up a FREE GET EATEN HUGS sign

Man, this thing is so outdated now! The Free Boobs thing is a much better trap sign.
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2008, 02:38:17 PM »

All of the women who were groped wanted to be groped. All of the one that didn't, weren't. They didn't pressure anyone into it. And no one seems to notice or care that most of the gropers were female, or that there were men being groped as well. It's all about the hairy dude who, god forbid, wanted to touch someone's breasts.

Shit like this makes me really ashamed to be a woman.
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2008, 02:38:39 PM »

I really like how that feminist site article about it has the following sarcastic line in it.

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Because what could be more intoxicating than the approval of a room full of tech dudes?

Of course, I don't know why such irony coming from the smaller brain of a woman surprises me.
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2008, 02:55:47 PM »

All of the women who were groped wanted to be groped. All of the one that didn't, weren't. They didn't pressure anyone into it. And no one seems to notice or care that most of the gropers were female, or that there were men being groped as well. It's all about the hairy dude who, god forbid, wanted to touch someone's breasts.

Shit like this makes me really ashamed to be a woman.

I agree with all of this.

All of it.
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2008, 03:05:17 PM »

Well.

First of all people are fucking retarded. Males, Females, whatever. Let's get that one out of the way.

I've known the Ferret for a long time (not personally, mind you), since he's one of the most well-known Magic writers online, and has been for years. The fact that he had an unbelievably stupid idea is no surprise (whatever you think of FREE BOOBS or the fact that against all odds this actually happened this one time, regardless, it was a stupid fucking idea). I can only shudder to think of how many girls gave themselves up on that original day out of a weird sense of peer pressure only to regret it later. Though, for the record, I have met many women in my life who would be very open to the idea of freer sexuality (shit... just ask a baby boomer), many of whom were card carrying lesbians, feminists, or both.

More importantly, if that truly represented a form of open non-obligational sexual congress (because who the fuck do you think you're kidding here folks), it's only fair to let the women caress the men's asses, chests or whatnot. If that didn't happen, that makes it a lot more creepy and one-sided.

That said, the feminist responses all grate (as usual). The best advocates for feminism I ever meet continue to be the boring, unremarkable people who carry on every day without allowing themselves to fall prey to activism or reactionary thinking. People who are happy to be husbands or wives on fully equal terms day in and day out, without instituting I-Love-Lucy-like rules or demolishing the concept of marriage or screaming about fifty thousand years of patriarchy. People who can just drop the politics and work it out, at least in their tiny two-person microcosm*. That doesn't mean ignoring the past, that means growing beyond it. Leave the crusading for fighting public institutions or imbalances in civics or whatever.

So, uh... in conclusion, the Ferret is a fucking retard and so are the internets! 

::D:

*In the same way that the best advocates for homosexuality are those boring couples that don't go to rallies and just live like ordinary married couples. Those folks make me feel good about social change in ways no 'crusader' could ever hope to touch. 
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2008, 03:23:12 PM »

THE WAR OF THE SEXES CAN ONLY BE WON IF

YOUR WORDS ARE BACKED BY NUCLEAR WEAPONS

or, you know, you realize that you're a fucking idiot and just shut the fuck up and agree to respect people equally regardless of their race, gender, or sexual preference
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 03:26:17 PM »

I refuse!

Now excuse me, I've a train to catch.
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 03:28:55 PM »

That's really depressing.  Horny loser guys are so dumb.  I think there should've been pins to grope guys crotches if you could grope chicks boobs.  F-- to everyone.
 

Also, that chick who spelled women as womyn--she's a massive dumb.  I don't feel empowered 'cause she spelled the word different.  Fuck her.

Also: frotteurism is creepy and god that makes me hate the idea of public trans even more.
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 03:33:03 PM »

if you require a change in the spelling of your gender to feel empowered what the fuck is wrong with you

also Arc I'd let you grope and respect me less based solely as a reward for Dog O' War ok

that's right

the way into a woman's heart is hilarious image-fu involving cats and dogs and missiles
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 03:42:57 PM »

or, you know, you realize that you're a fucking idiot and just shut the fuck up and agree to respect people equally regardless of their race, gender, or sexual preference

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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 03:51:10 PM »

I think there should've been pins to grope guys crotches if you could grope chicks boobs.

Yeah, that'll show us guys. We'll wear buttons that let girls know that they can feel up our dicks if they ask us.
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2008, 03:54:21 PM »

I'm just saying it wouldn't have been unfair then.  Maybe I wanna grope random strangers while telling them "NO YOU STAY AWAY FROM MY BOOBS, ONLY KAZZ CAN TOUCH THEM," and then have Kazz grope my boobs right in front of them.  That'd be awesomely hilarious.
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2008, 03:59:01 PM »

I won't lie.  I'd love to run up to every pair of boobs I see and grab them and smoosh them and rub my face on them.  Big or small, young or old, male or female.  It doesn't matter.  I am utterly desperate for human contact.  I'm so lonely.

FOR GODS SAKE WEAR THE PIN
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2008, 04:01:21 PM »

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Maybe I wanna grope random strangers

I can accept that. Hell, if you ever need a not-Kazz to feel up, I'm willing to make that sacrifice.

I suddenly feel very creepy now.
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2008, 04:13:03 PM »

I'm just saying it wouldn't have been unfair then.  Maybe I wanna grope random strangers while telling them "NO YOU STAY AWAY FROM MY BOOBS, ONLY KAZZ CAN TOUCH THEM," and then have Kazz grope my boobs right in front of them.  That'd be awesomely hilarious.

I think I saw that in a porno once...
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2008, 04:21:30 PM »

actually i feel like posting my actual position on this

I don't give a damn if someone lets someone else touch their boobs or whatever.  more power to em.

i will not be participating, because i got over my middle school boobcitement long ago and i prefer to look like i'm not a virgin
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2008, 04:22:32 PM »

I don't really wanna grope random strangers, for the record.  I just grope Kazz whenever possible.  And pinch his butt.

Also, the kind of gropin' I'm talking about, guys would not want to be squeezed that hard >:3 >:3

And another edit to say Kazz is lying, 'cause he grabs my boobs all the time.  In the middle of me changing or drying off from a shower, etc, any time.
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Re: Sour Gropes
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2008, 04:38:47 PM »

Also, the kind of gropin' I'm talking about, guys would not want to be squeezed that hard >:3 >:3

I'm willing to make that sacrifice.
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