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[Friday]

THE WOLVES DO NOT NEED NERFS

[Kazz]

Well, they were going to walk away with this round, until half of them decided to come out of the closet.

[Ocksi]

Yeah, three of the wolves killed themselves; I don't think the innocents could've gotten the game without that kind of help.

[Niku]

THE WOLVES DO NOT NEED NERFS

the wolves won the first game without that help

OR AT LEAST THEY WOULD HAVE

[Bongo Bill]

I don't know how that happened; everything was going so well.

[Classic]

OR AT LEAST THEY WOULD HAVE

I wanted to... so badly flip out and kill you, because I knew we hadn't found a weretiger yet, and I knew it'd be a right quick way to keep the game going.

Curse my human lack-of-constant internets.

[Friday]

Well, honestly.

The reason why the innocents won this game (or why the evil teams lost it) is twofold:

One: Cait (the real seer, and someone who is smart and knows how to play smart) was left alive until the endgame.

Two: Cait took the risk of forming a quasi-innocent voting block. He couldn't be sure of everyone, of course, but it worked like a charm.

Again, notice the list of remaining players O. Hakubi posted near the beginning of the end. In fact, here, let me go get it.

Anyway, going on what I can sort of kind of piece together:

ZedPower – Master Werewolf
Ted Belmont – Fake Seer
Lady Duke – Innocent (probably)
Cait – Innocent (probably)
O.Hakubi – Innocent (obviously)
Meikai - Innocent (probably)

At the very least, none of this group are Dracula.  Which leaves the suspects in this group:

Romo - Renon
McFrugal – Red Skelton
Ocksi – Skelerang
Zach – Slime
Influenza Enema – Mummy

Now this list was given to O.Hak, by Cait, who had previously scried Mars and exchanged info to get it.

(By the way Cait gave it to O.Hak because O.Hak was the fleaman and therefore any wolves bent on revenge would have to kill him twice)

(Oh and later Cait convinced Romo that O.Hak was the seer so Romo went and tried to kill him)

(Ocksi killed Cait anyway that round but still)

Anyway, let's take a closer look at the people O.Hak does NOT identify as inno:

Romo - Werewolf
McFrugal – Dracula
Ocksi – Turned
Zach – Werewolf
Influenza Enema – Ninja

And then, on that same day, Ninja flips out and kills off the self admitted Zed.

Leaving Dracula, his one last Vamp, and the two wolves left to kill, which the inno bloc promptly does the remainder of the game.

This isn't the only reason why the innocents won. It's just 75% of it. You don't need to scry the bad guys if you scry every single other player.

Also Also:

There was one choice that I noticed that the wolves made, and that was to turn Romo into a wolf, instead of Cait, who they were originally considering.

Imagine if Zed had turned Cait into a wolf, instead.

Cait would have given team wolf every single innocent role left in the game, and the vampires, too.

Ah, the choices we make.

[Friday]

I'll consider removing the G. Wolf's inno cloak, but if I do, I think they need a boost somewhere else, somehow.

For the record, foolscrying and twilight cloaks have never made a difference in any VvW game. The closest misinformation has come to fucking over ANY team is Niku being one vote away from being lynched by Ted, and even THAT was mostly engineered by Kazz, a vampire. Granted, he wouldn't have been able to do it without the fool backing him, but.

[Kazz]

I don't think the G. Wolf's inno cloak should be removed.  I do think there should be an anti-wolf seer who is able to identify whether someone is a wolf or not, but nothing else about them.  He'd be able to detect the GW.

Of course, that IS a wolf nerf, so, uhhh, start them out knowing the Devil?

[Friday]

Nah, that's a good idea. Will do in VvW4: Resident Wolf.

[Royal☭]

Also, next VvW I want to be invincible.

[Friday]

I'm actually toying with ways to bring back the Elder, so you might get your wish.

[James Edward Smith]

WvV4?

Suddenly I want to draw a picture of a vampire and a werewolf, kneeling with their heads down and holding up a throne in their large clawed hands. Upon the chair sits a dainty, pale-blonde, almost ghostly Friday wearing a thin and droopy white gown and smirking as she looks down at the glass of blood that dangles from her hand.

[François]

id like to be a plain innocent next time plz

nothing fancy

just a basic dude

[Bongo Bill]

ZedPower

[Arc]

ZedPower

[Royal☭]

Slowpoke

[François]

alright im really the elder wolfacle

innos win