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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #460 on: July 25, 2012, 08:19:10 PM »

Ain't over till the fat lady sings, but yeah I think he's going to have a pretty tough time wriggling out of this one.

Even if he loses that doesn't mean he'll be booted out on his ass (it's still going to be a tough election, and keep in mind it's a three-man race), but they'll probably put a leash on him like the feds have been pushing to do.

I'd really love for one of the plaintiffs' attorneys to ask him "So what exactly DO you do, since you're apparently not responsible for anything your department does?"
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #461 on: July 25, 2012, 09:39:38 PM »

that's a really awful tie to wear with that suit and shirt by the way
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #462 on: July 27, 2012, 12:56:37 PM »

Michael Marin, former Wall Street trader, took cyanide after arson conviction

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It was a bizarre ending to a case that began in 2009 when he emerged from his burning Phoenix-area mansion in scuba gear.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #463 on: July 27, 2012, 01:28:16 PM »

I can't say I particularly blame him for punching his ticket, but cyanide is a fucking horrible way to go.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #464 on: August 03, 2012, 12:58:08 PM »

Oral arguments have ended; closing arguments will be submitted in writing.

The crux of Joe's argument THIS time seems to be, once again, blaming someone else:

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An exacting jurist with an obsession for detail, [Judge] Snow noted that in videotaped testimony Sheriff Joe Arpaio's lawyers had played for the judge earlier, Alonzo Pena, former Special Agent in Charge of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Phoenix office, said race could be used, along with other factors, in developing probable cause regarding an individual's immigration status.

Snow, who is both judge and jury in this bench trial, observed that in the Ninth Circuit, Pena is "dead wrong," according to a precedent set in U.S. v. Montero-Camargo, a 2000 Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling that eliminated race as a factor in most immigration stops.

If the MCSO used race as "one factor among many," does it matter if they believed they were following the law, as instructed by ICE? That is to say, if MCSO deputes intended to use race as a factor, does it matter if they did not intend to violate the law?

I don't really think Snow's likely to buy the "But ICE said it was okay!" argument.  I don't think Arpaio's going to wriggle out of this one.

Snow's extended the deadline for closing arguments to 8/16, and the ruling will likely be a few weeks after that.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #465 on: August 03, 2012, 04:24:39 PM »

Remember how scathing the Dover creationism ruling was? I want that.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #466 on: August 08, 2012, 11:03:25 AM »

I'd say Penzone isn't pulling any punches, but

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The campaign also previewed the ad to anti-child abuse advocacy groups. The feedback?

If anything, the ad is "not tough enough" on Arpaio, they told Pearson.

So as far as they're concerned, he actually IS pulling punches.

Still and all, nice to see a Democrat go for the jugular.

I heard someone on the radio the other day saying that what they SHOULD be doing is saying "Arpaio did some good work but he's not suited for the position anymore" or some other conciliatory horseshit designed to peel off moderate Arpaio supporters.  I gotta say, in addition to "Arpaio let a bunch of child molesters off the hook" being a more viscerally satisfying ad, I think it's better politicking too.

His work's still cut out for him, especially in a three-man race.  But I'm beginning to like this guy.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #467 on: August 10, 2012, 01:16:50 PM »

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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #468 on: August 10, 2012, 02:27:14 PM »

...muh?

must be a REALLY slow news day.

Can't even remember the last time I watched local news.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #469 on: August 10, 2012, 02:57:22 PM »

They're just suspicious of it because it's black.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #470 on: August 10, 2012, 02:57:33 PM »

Man, I cringed just typing that out.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #471 on: August 10, 2012, 03:05:43 PM »

Alternatively:

Someone better check that flashlight for its papers!
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #472 on: August 10, 2012, 04:17:14 PM »

It gets better, you guys.

3rd Ave and Jefferson?

The station building is located at 5th Ave and Adams.

It's like they literally just had their camera crew start wandering around the neighborhood looking for something to report on.



Bit of context, though: there have been real, actual flashlight bombs planted around town, so it's not ENTIRELY frivolous.

That said, the bombs have all been big yellow flashlights, not small black ones.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #473 on: August 10, 2012, 04:24:31 PM »

Does Joe have jurisdiction over this flashlight?
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #474 on: August 11, 2012, 03:06:40 AM »

He's deporting the flashlight to China, as it didn't have it's papers.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #475 on: August 15, 2012, 11:20:36 AM »

Arpaio ad highlights all the stuff he's done to help children.

That's...a subject you'd think he'd want to avoid this election.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #476 on: August 15, 2012, 01:59:04 PM »

Look, man. Joe Arpaio is the ultimate wing man to kids. He helped them get laid.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #477 on: August 21, 2012, 01:12:30 PM »

According to a memo written by a Maricopa County sheriff's deputy assigned to a botched sex crime case now threatening to cost the county millions, fraud investigations took precedence over a 13 year-old girl's report of being raped by her uncle.

The March 13, memo from MCSO detective G.J. Edgar to Sergeant P. Dougherty, identified as a supervisor of the Special Victims Unit, offers insight into how such a heinous crime, now the subject of a $30 million notice of claim to the county, was ignored for several years.

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Edgar relates that when she was transferred to the Special Victims Unit in 2008, she was told to take with her "a mortgage fraud case that was a special assignment from Deputy Chief B. Knight."

Knight called her a few months later and asked if she had done anything with the mortgage fraud case. Edgar said no. Knight ordered her to tend to it.

"Because this project was from a deputy chief," Edgar writes, "it was made a priority."

She says she told a supervisor at the Special Victims Unit about her working the mortgage fraud investigation.

"I was told to finish the case," she explains.

Gets worse from there.

Penzone seems to be making this the centerpiece of his campaign.  Good.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #478 on: August 21, 2012, 01:45:38 PM »

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mortgage fraud was a more important use of time than child sexual abuse? What the fuck is wrong with Arpaio? I get that he was running the office into the fucking ground, but really.
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Re: What the fuck, Arizona?
« Reply #479 on: August 21, 2012, 07:23:53 PM »

A special victims detective was assigned to a mortgage fraud case?! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
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