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[Thad]

guys I made the Warden Norton reference back on page 9.

[Mongrel]

[Niku]

wait a minute but that means

i like the cut of your jib, thad

[Thad]

So okay.  The City of Glendale is trying to stop the Tohono O'odham Nation from building a casino on its border.

Solution?  Brewer just passed a law saying Glendale can just seize the land.

I have to imagine Indians are pretty sick of that shit at this point.

[Joxam]

Yeah, but that kind of stuff seems pretty common. Its no more common, at least, than it happening about other things considered low brow. (a local city passed a law saying someone couldn't build a strip joint in the town, and then when he bought a building outside of the town to do it, they extended the city limits so that they could apply the rule to the place he did buy.) The only thing that is a little bit of a pisser is the fact that a casino is a SHIT TON of jobs that place didn't have before.

[Cait]

The problem is that the state is saying that the city can seize tribal land, which is nominally a Federal jurisdiction.

[Royal☭]

And is also an act that has over a hundred years of brutal history behind it.

[Thad]

Guys I think Joxam is well aware of the implications.  He's just saying this kind of shit happens all the time and it's not like indigenous people are surprised by having their land taken away anymore.

(The irony is, of course, that giving someone something and then taking it away is referred to as "Indian giving".)

[Bal]

Exactly. That's how we give stuff to the Indians.

[Joxam]

Yeah, its bullshit. My tribe has had a seventh casino worked into their gaming compact since 2008 and we still haven't gotten all the pieces together to make it happen yet, despite even the local towns around our chosen location all saying they want us to build it*. The BIA has stopped us twice so far over technicalities but largely our State and Local governments don't actively try and stop us.

You should look into exactly what your local tribes give to your local government in their gaming compacts or any good will donations. Our tribe pays 60 million dollars PLUS 5 percent of our net yearly win and if that total exceeds 350 million dollars we have to pay 5.5 percent instead of 5 percent. On top of that we also support monetarily every local emergency response team in the areas that we have casinos built in to insure that they can properly respond to incidents at our gaming facilities as we do not have a tribal police.


*I have to say, by the way , the fact that people actually want us to build a casino in their area shows me more than anything exactly how bad the job market has gotten. I've lived in the south and man indians might as well be Mexicans up here. :D

[Cait]

It looks like my "State trumps Federal" interpretation has some pretty high-level support.

[Ted Belmont]

Oh wow, the comments on that post are amazing.

[Royal☭]

I can't decide if that's a bad thing.

[Pacobird]

See, this is what happens when you pay your state legislators 20 grand a year so rich hobbyists are the only ones who can do it.

[Mothra]

http://media.mtvnservices.com/mgid:cms:video:thedailyshow.com:381267

You got a real winner there Thad!

[Thad]

The good news is he's retiring.

The bad news is, we're not likely to replace him with someone who's any better.

The good news is, his replacement won't be whip.

The bad news is, they're not likely to replace him with someone who's any better.

[TA]

Birther Bill officially too crazy for Jan Brewer.

Or this has to do with the fact that Mitt Romney refuses to release his birth certificate for some reason.

[Dooly]

“In addition, I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for president of the greatest and most powerful nation on Earth to submit their ‘early baptismal circumcision certificates’ among other records to the Arizona secretary of state,” she said. “This is a bridge too far.”

Would this bill actually have required that candidates prove they were baptized, meaning only Baptists or Catholics or members of whichever religion does this would be recognized as presidential candidates in Arizona?  That seems to be a pretty blatant violation of the First Amendment.

[TA]

My god the entire internet seems to be asking that exact same question, except they zero in the circumcision part of that.  No, it wouldn't.  It provides a list of possible documents, and doesn't require any specific one.

The bill is ridiculous enough without misreading it.

[Thad]

But it WOULD put circumcision/baptism docs on stronger legal footing than the actual legal documents Hawaii has repeatedly provided verifying Obama's birth there.

She also vetoed a bill allowing people to carry guns on college campuses.  So that's TWO things too crazy for her.

On the minus side, she signed one granting preference to "married couples" (meaning, of course, straight couples) in adopting children.

Until recently my grandparents lived nextdoor to a lesbian couple who adopted three kids.  They credited Napolitano with the progress that had allowed them to adopt.  Brewer's just undone all that progress -- though as always, Janet shares responsibility as she is directly responsible for Brewer becoming governor.