Topic: THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE (Read 26492 times)

Bleck · « **Reply #160 on:** December 17, 2009, 10:53:12 AM »

Only problem I have with Natascha is that it's not too visually different from Sasha. I can basically never tell if a Heavy is using Natascha until I'm right bloody there and can hear the different spin noise.

Catloaf · « **Reply #161 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:06:13 AM »

I like the flaregun, but one can never actually hit anyone with a crit from it as they shoot differently, that and the fact that one rarely actually kills anyone with it directly makes me think it needs a buff in it's impact damage. Hell, I'd be fine with it if it just shot a little faster.

I didn't mean that Natascha and the flaregun are awful, they just are the two items out right now that I think need a slight buff/moderate tweak. The C&D, which on paper is my favorite spy watch but functionally isn't as viable as the others, also belongs on the list.

Doom · « **Reply #162 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:08:55 AM »

They buffed the impact damage from 20 to 30, if you actually hit them with it while they're already on fire it mini-crits AND increases the fire intensity by 1.5. The Flare-Gun is perfectly fine.

Just to put this in perspective, if you hit any non-Demo-or-Tuffer class twice with the flare-gun, they will probably die if they can't find health/water. It's a terrifically effective Scout finisher. It's also pretty great against the tough classes because they're so slow that you can hit them with it more than twice and really ruin their day.

Mongrel · « **Reply #163 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:22:41 AM »

Yeah, flare gun seems solidly effective now that they boosted the impact damage. I used to completely blow off being hit with the flare gun, but you actually notice it now.

McDohl · « **Reply #164 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:27:48 AM »

Yeah, this morning when I was fooling around with it on an arena server, I shot someone on fire with it and was "Oh, neat. Mini crit."

Niku · « **Reply #165 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:41:45 AM »

I never realized that it also boosted afterburn.

McDohl · « **Reply #166 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:45:01 AM »

A week ago, before I saw the weapon unlocks, I concluded to myself that the new weapons will be milestone-unlocked as well as random-dropped. I promised myself that I wouldn't achievement farm to get them.

These new weapons are seriously challenging my willpower.

Good thing I have to work tonight. When I get home, people will have already played with the new stuff by achievement whoring and I can get an idea of how it all works.

Bleck · « **Reply #167 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:46:34 AM »

Quote from: McDohl on December 17, 2009, 11:45:01 AM

Good thing I have to work tonight. When I get home, people will have already played with the new stuff by achievement whoring and I can get an idea of how it all works.

Same here - but you have to admit, it's going to make work agonizing.

Niku · « **Reply #168 on:** December 17, 2009, 12:18:14 PM »

I have work until late tonight, and then early tomorrow. But that just means all the crafting recipes will be waiting for me, I'll have an extra little bushel of idled items, and I won't have to deal with server headaches. I think it won't be that agonizing.

Envy · « **Reply #169 on:** December 17, 2009, 12:21:38 PM »

What time does the update go out?

Edit: Less then a hour according to the war update.

A² · « **Reply #170 on:** December 17, 2009, 12:36:13 PM »

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McDohl · « **Reply #171 on:** December 17, 2009, 12:38:22 PM »

Yeah, work IS gonna be agonizing tonight.

Have fun, kids, and I'll see you after 10:00-ish Central Time. Don't let ShMo die before I get home!

Guild · « **Reply #172 on:** December 17, 2009, 12:56:16 PM »

If they're smart, the one that wins will be the one most played by the most people during the matchup.

Catloaf · « **Reply #173 on:** December 17, 2009, 01:16:44 PM »

Quote from: Doom on December 17, 2009, 11:08:55 AM

They buffed the impact damage from 20 to 30, if you actually hit them with it while they're already on fire it mini-crits AND increases the fire intensity by 1.5.

Fuck, I guess I missed that update, nevermind, that's exactly what I thought they needed to do and hadn't done yet. :slowpoke:

patito · « **Reply #174 on:** December 17, 2009, 03:40:14 PM »

Yeah, impact damage from the flare gun is good enough that you can kill other pyros with it, it's pretty all right now.

Zaratustra · « **Reply #175 on:** December 17, 2009, 03:43:10 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-SfumhQdI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlzITtxAMA'

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Doom · « **Reply #176 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:47:57 PM »

It's live and the Soldier won boots that reduce his rocket jump damage but occupy his Shotgun/Bugle slot.

Fascinating. Not sure how the Demo could've enjoyed those boots: You need your sticky launcher to sticky jump and giving up the Pipe Bomber would've been a really bad scene. So God Speed, Soldiers.

Apparently, by the math, Demos had 1900 more kills than Soldiers, but Soldiers made up for it in Propaganda??? Weird!

Here's hoping milestones are in or that I craft something worth using!

SCD · « **Reply #177 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:40:29 PM »

Still anxiously waiting for that fun 5-minute video to replace the thing missing in my life....

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #178 on:** December 17, 2009, 10:49:30 PM »

Had the Demo won, they probably would have been primary-slot.

Anyway. I got a Buff Banner! But until the class distribution returns to normal levels, I can't tell how effective it is. Going without a shotgun is kind of hellish, and it seems to take about five or six kills to charge the bugle, and when I actually got around to using it once all my allies ran away and then I got shot. But the minicrit bonus does apply to the person who uses the bugle, which is really cool.

Seems like it'd be most effective in conjunction with a Medic to help make sure you live long enough to fill up the rage meter.

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #179 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:28:29 PM »

Okay, let's check out these patch notes.

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Team Fortress 2

New Content
Added new control point map Gorge
Added new capture the flag map Double Cross
Added item crafting
Added work-in-progress TF Bots for beta testing in KOTH maps (blog post coming with more info)
Added headshot death animations
Added more backstab animations

Soldier
Added 35 new Soldier achievements
Added 4 new Soldier items
Added new Soldier Domination lines

Demoman
Added 35 new Demoman achievements
Added 3 new Demoman items
Added new Demoman Domination lines

Spy
Now pretends to be carrying the weapons & wearables of the target he's disguised as
Moved the Spy's camera-beard to the Misc loadout slot so he can equip it with a hat

Scout
The Sandman now only stuns on a max range hit (when you hear the cheering)
All shorter hits now force the enemy into the thirdperson fleeing state (also removed the damage reduction on them)

Minor changes
Added new options to the Multiplayer->Advanced dialog:
Combat text, which displays damage amounts you do to enemies.
Medic auto caller, which automatically shows you nearby friends at low health.
Heal target marker, which better highlights the target your medigun is locked onto.
Alternative Spy disguise menu, which lets you choose disguises using just the 1-3 keys.
Fixed being able to affect friendly pipes with airblast (they would unstick)
Added recharge sound to abilities with a recharge bar
Fixed attachable wearables not staying on ragdolls
Players no longer see the wearables that are a part of a friendly spy's disguise, fixing various graphical glitches
Added jiggle bones for Pyro's chicken hat
Added 2 new game startup songs

Community Mapmaker requests
Implemented InputSetSetupTime() for team_round_timer (was in the .fgd but never implemented)
Added "SetDispenserLevel" input to cart dispenser (1, 2, or 3)

Okay, we already knew about the new stuff. Bots are cool, Spy tweaks are as they should have been in the first place, Sandman nerf, auto-calling, a bunch of crazy tweaks...

...wait a minute. Let me have a closer look at this...

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The Sandman now only stuns on a max range hit (when you hear the cheering)
All shorter hits now force the enemy into the thirdperson fleeing state (also removed the damage reduction on them)

What... what is this feeling? Is this... happiness?

News:

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