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[Classic]

Which reminds me... Weathergate: I'm foaming at the goddamned mouth over that one. How about you guys?

[Mothra]

Anything to make these people look even more retarded is A-OK in my book.

The more they make this about anything other than the truth, the more they have to position themselves against reality, and the more people will have to openly decide between what is actually happening and what they wish was happening (i.e. scientists are a gaggle of money-grubbing fast-talking liers)

I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a good reason as to why people would make up something like this.

edit:

Oh oh, the actual emails that happened. Yeah, that pisses me off, if only because this is exactly the kind of thing that reinforces this batshit crazy conspiricy theories. Scientists don't all work at ScienceCo and get their stories straight at the lunchtable.

From Tyler Cowen's blog:

I see science, including climate science, as very much a decentralized process, based on the collective efforts of thousands of researchers. The evidence for our current understanding of climate change also comes from a wide variety of disciplines, including chemistry, meteorology, oceanography, geography, tree ring studies, ice sheet studies, and a good body of theory, which has held up well. These results all point in broadly similar directions. Call me naive but, with apologies to Robert Sugden, I don't think many scientific results depend on what comes out of East Anglia, even if you include its emailing affiliates from Penn State and the like. Even very, very simple climate models generate many of the basic results.

[Mongrel]

As much as that blogger is broadly correct, it doesn't matter. This breach of scientific ethics will give the right-wingers all the ammo they need.

Those who want to be convinced (or unconvinced, rather), now have their crux gammata.

[SCD]

I myself have lost my faith in the media completely over this one.  They have failed to explain, or in most cases, even take note (I'm looking at you, global media) about how exactly this came to be, why this is important, and what this  could mean.  Instead they ramble on and take full page articles about tiger woods or 20 people in Afghanistan who were most likely tortured in an Afghan prision, calling for the head of our defense minister...

I am pissed of with our media - all of it, as the function of the newsmedia in a democratic society is to give us the information required for us to make proper and informed choices in our life.  Anything Tiger woods (although afg does...) fails to do that.

Hell, if they're right now crying about how they are losing their money, I say let them fade into the night so that those quiet voices can take centre stage. 

[Mongrel]

Christ almighty tell me about it with the Tiger Woods nonsense.

Okay okay, we get that people are stupid and you're pandering to a demand, but four stories daily - even in the regular papers? Really?!

[Kazz]

It made the front page of several regional New Hampshire dailies, for some god-damned reason.

[Mongrel]

Yeah, I've been getting worried about the degree to which regular papers have been tabloiding themselves  just in the past few years. Slowly the "entertainment" pages seem to be creeping out to consume us all.

Another marker of the continent's steady decrease in intelligence levels, I guess.

[Classic]

you may find it hard to believe but i do feel as tho i growin stupidr

[Mongrel]

New York's beggars certainly seem to be well-armed.

[The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji]

New York's beggars certainly seem to be well-armed.

O rly?

The sergeant pursued and the man turned and fired a stolen Mac-10 machine pistol that held 30 rounds, shooting two rounds before it jammed, police said. The officer fired four times, striking the suspect in the chest and arm, killing him, Commissioner said.

/pffflol, etc.

And while I'm here, Mike Enzi just gave me an aneurysm.

[Royal☭]

Mike Enzi you say?  Where have I seen that name?  Oh yeah, he's in the Family.

[Büge]

Rats. I was hoping he was in that other Family.

[SCD]

New York's beggars certainly seem to be well-armed.

Goes to show the importance of keeping your piece well-lubricated...
 

[sei]

Rats. I was hoping he was in that other Family.

I was expecting something else.  *snap, snap*

[The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji]

Which reminds me... Weathergate: I'm foaming at the goddamned mouth over that one. How about you guys?

Now that my brother is starting to spam my Facebook page with PJTV videos, including one about Climategate, yeah. And not so much foaming at the mouth as wishing to hide in a mountain bunker with a Fallout 3 shotgun trap trained on the entrance, sobbing quietly as I realize I'm the black sheep in a family of wingnuts who actually cite this horse hooey as creditable evidence to the contrary.

[Thad]

GOD. FREAKIN'. DAMMIT. (Fox News fails at middle school-level math. AGAIN)

Just watched the Daily Show segment on it, and the most flagrant part is that the guy ACTUALLY NOTICES while he's reading it and then cuts himself off rather than admit there's something obviously wrong with the data.  He says, "So you got ninety -- you got a lot of people right there..."

Which reminds me... Weathergate: I'm foaming at the goddamned mouth over that one. How about you guys?

Fuck those people.  You're going to deliberately change numbers because they conflict with your hypothesis, and put fucking "scientist" on your business card?  They're as bad as creation scientists.

And no, of course it's fucking not proof that global warming doesn't exist.  But it IS proof that one of the sets of data most frequently cited in support of it is complete bullshit.  It's red meat for the deniers, and makes people suspect the other studies which are (I hope) actually reputable.

And, you know, the fact that polar ice is fucking melting.

[Classic]

Which reminds me... Weathergate: I'm foaming at the goddamned mouth over that one. How about you guys?

Fuck those people.  You're going to deliberately change numbers because they conflict with your hypothesis, and put fucking "scientist" on your business card?

I haven't gone through all of the e-mails, but what are you talking about? Are you talking about "Mike's Nature Trick" and all that?

I recently found a youTube video satirizing this science witch hunt (which is why it bothers me) and explaining some of the comments. I'd say it was worth a view, but this guy is dryer than most deserts, and only half as funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nnVQ2fROOg


Mostly I find myself baffled that an anti-climate change group attacks the system of a scientific organization and this action winds up at the scientific organization getting investigated for possible ethics problems, and nothing happening to the attackers.


I guess you can't have a breach of professional ethics if you're not a professional.

[Büge]

New York Times' segregated gift guide

because every black woman needs hair relaxer amirite

[Mongrel]

:jimihendrixsingletear:

[Catloaf]

Further NYT gift-guide WTF:  EVE online made their Videogames of 2009 list.