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[Arc]

See, the problem with that is the whole false accusation thing, accurately determining guilt and all.

Case in point, the staircase ride & her striking first being alleged acts.

I think we should start shooting people in the kneecaps as a form of punishment if you do something horrible because someone got you a present but it wasn't as good a present as you wanted.

:huge: GET OVER IT ALREADY. Giving me a mogwai without the instructions was a bad idea on YOUR part. The town was certain to burn down, with or without my heroic antics!

[Ted Belmont]

Since when does YouTube have region locks?

[Mongrel]

I can't link them, because most of the articles I've read were print (and are months old), but they've been doing that for a quite a while now.

[Catloaf]

It's like I've been saying.  Bring back the Code of Hammurabi.  You can adjust it a little to fit modern humanitarianism, but, you know, keep the utilitarian ones - castration for rape, cutting off hands for thievery, etc.

Do it right and you don't even NEED prison.  All the rapists are dickless and the murderers are dead, so we can use that land for... I dunno.  Mass graves.

Actually, I think the rape punishment should be worsened.  No death involved, that's letting 'em off easy, but they should also have a a nest of spiders or something shoved up their ass to make them experience something more like what they did onto an innocent woman.

[Brentai]

Skipping right over the argument of whether or not a nest of spiders is worse than permanently losing your dick, the idea here is that it acts as punishment, prevention, and rehabilitation all at once.  Whatever your idea of what prison is supposed to accomplish is, a simple weenie-whack will accomplish it just as well if not better.

Hands for thievery and, er, heads for murder may or may not be as straightforward, but it still sends the right message.

[Saturn]

EEEEEW

[Arc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wniGFm_jgRI

[Büge]

EEEEEW

Paper Street Gasoline Co.

[Mongrel]

The Cleveland Leader displays it's awesome, uh, leadership in news reporting.

[Catloaf]

Once again misinterprets what Catloaf said.

It was in addition to, not swapping one punishment for another.

[Brentai]

Well then you're sailing right past the "justifiable barbarism" line.

[Catloaf]

Perhaps.  But I happen to think rape as at least 10 times worse than those other crimes.  I think the fact that my father works as a psychologist primarily on battered women has seeped rather far into my subconscious despite the fact that the topic rarely ever comes up in conversation.

Also, Murder does have the very minor upside of lowering our numbers.  And theft is merely an inconvenience to the victim.

[Brentai]

Yes, well, you really don't ever hear from murder victims how traumatic the experience was, now do you?

[Doom]

And theft is merely an inconvenience to the victim.

Except for all those times violence gets involved.

Also, Murder does have the very minor upside of lowering our numbers.

Thread is over, go home, you lost.

[Transportation]

In line with alternate forms of punishment, one of the more "sensible" ones I saw a sci-fi Painbox.

Basically instead of going to jail criminals would have their pain centers stimulated by neurologists for N hours. Said punishments would be public in order to enforce a sense of social humiliation.

People would still be sent to normal prison for violating a three strike rule and possibly if they wanted to take a standard prison sentence over a Painbox.

This would would weed out the one time criminals from repeat offenders. The former is punished quickly and the repeat offenders will burn through their strikes in a few months instead of a few decades as in the current system.

The only damage a system could inflict would be psychological* which prison does anyway. And several hours of agony seem more merciful than a few years of complete isolation from society. Also I'm going to go on a limb and say most people would choose it over a prison sentence.

*We're going to assume it works very well. Dangerous things already occur to prisoners in the current system and any downsides should be weighed against that.

[Beat Bandit]

Or you could go the Dune route and cut off their willy then never have an alien spray them with stuff that makes them immortal.


...That was Dune, right?

[Burrito Al Pastor]

And theft is merely an inconvenience to the victim.

Except for all those times violence gets involved.

If there's violence, it's robbery, not theft. Theft is by definition nonviolent.

[Doom]

If you're discussing general crimes, as Catloaf was(i.e. murder, rape, theft) then it'll switch from theft to robbery pretty often if you, say, resist at all. It's generally the same idea: Give me your stuff. Maybe I have a knife or a gun.

The smart thing of course is to just fork it over and get on with your life. But it's not for show, people aren't always "smart", and both sides are jittery.

Now maybe he means "theft is merely an inconvenience" and the hand thing is a bit much, but considering the likelihood to pop over to robbery and that once you cross that criminal threshold, why stop now...

I don't really support the barbarianism stuff, to be honest. You could just as easily put a little tatoo on his hands and I think that'd be too much of a violation of privacy or something.

[Mongrel]

Or you could go the Dune route and cut off their willy then never have an alien spray them with stuff that makes them immortal.


...That was Dune, right?

No.

[Büge]

Basically instead of going to jail criminals would have their pain centers stimulated by neurologists for N hours. Said punishments would be public in order to enforce a sense of social humiliation.

"The agony booth is a most effective means of discipline."