Topic: What the fuck? (Read 315127 times)

PhilosopherDirtbike · « **Reply #600 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:06:30 PM »

Quote from: Transportation on December 31, 2008, 01:14:52 PM

Basically instead of going to jail criminals would have their pain centers stimulated by neurologists for N hours. Said punishments would be public in order to enforce a sense of social humiliation.

I have to say I would be against something like that. The idea of some state sponsered public torture seems wrong to me. Maybe I am just foolishly idealistic, but I do believe in keeping some civility even when it comes to how we treat criminals. I feel something like that, especially if made into a spectacle would really sap the humanity from people. Or what little humanity we have managed to scrounge together that has not yet been destroyed by the internet or TV, anyways. I know, especially when it comes to murder and rape, the people involved in committing these crimes are real bastards, but there really has to be a way we can deal with them and retain the right to refer to ourselves as "the good guys".

Misha · « **Reply #601 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:10:17 PM »

I would be more against the torture box idea if the prison system wasn't basically the same thing, spread out.

PhilosopherDirtbike · « **Reply #602 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:26:48 PM »

Yeah, I suppose, but I would prefer that we find a way to adress that problem, rather than giving up on it and finding a more express way to perpetuate it. Prisons shouldn't be resorts, obviously, but I have always operated under the view that the really monsterous people who one could argue deserve torture (rapists, serial killers, etc) are 'sick'. Not in a pitiable way, but in a way that there has to be some reason for.

Ideally, if we can perfect our understanding of the brain, which we get closer to every year it seems, we could find a way to install a conscience into these people. Some sort or neural pathway rewrite or implant so that we could fundementally cure what is making them 'sick'. Not mind control, just a little tweak. Then there would be no need for prison. The downside would be the natural vengeance drive where former victims might still hate them but maybe a relocation system too. I'd like to see something like that.

Only really Sci Fi answers though. No real good answers to the problem.

Doom · « **Reply #603 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:29:09 PM »

The best real answer is to separate prisoners for minor offenses(DUI, possession, etc) and those for major(rape, murder, etc) because guess how well the former do with the latter.

But the prison issue is a colossal cluster-fuck that would basically require a near total reworking of society due to it's roots in every damn thing. I.E. the "War" on Drugs.

A² · « **Reply #604 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:30:16 PM »

PhilosopherDirtbike, what is your avatar?

François · « **Reply #605 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:50:17 PM »

Quote from: PhilosopherDirtbike on December 31, 2008, 04:26:48 PM

Ideally, if we can perfect our understanding of the brain, which we get closer to every year it seems, we could find a way to install a conscience into these people. Some sort or neural pathway rewrite or implant so that we could fundementally cure what is making them 'sick'. Not mind control, just a little tweak. Then there would be no need for prison. The downside would be the natural vengeance drive where former victims might still hate them but maybe a relocation system too. I'd like to see something like that.

: That's an oomny idea, my droog!

PhilosopherDirtbike · « **Reply #606 on:** December 31, 2008, 05:14:37 PM »

Clockwork Orange does illustrate my primary concern about having an adequate way to relocate offenders so their past lives and victims/victims families don't catch up with them.

Quote from: Misha on December 31, 2008, 04:30:16 PM

PhilosopherDirtbike, what is your avatar?

I am not sure who they are. It is a hentai pic of a bunny girl on top of a cat girl with fruit, beads, and what appears to be tree sap smeared all over and stuck inside their privates respectively. I just cropped it to stay classy.

Friday · « **Reply #607 on:** December 31, 2008, 05:15:42 PM »

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Some sort or neural pathway rewrite or implant so that we could fundementally cure what is making them 'sick'. Not mind control, just a little tweak.

See this? This is a fucking slip'n'slide on a slippery slope that is iced over while Slippy slips his slippery cock into Fox's well lubricated slippery slobbery ass.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #608 on:** December 31, 2008, 05:24:11 PM »

Quote from: Friday on December 31, 2008, 05:15:42 PM

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Some sort or neural pathway rewrite or implant so that we could fundementally cure what is making them 'sick'. Not mind control, just a little tweak.

See this? This is a fucking slip'n'slide on a slippery slope that is iced over while Slippy slips his slippery cock into Fox's well lubricated slippery slobbery ass.

Quote from: PhilosopherDirtbike on December 31, 2008, 05:14:37 PM

...stay classy.

Romosome · « **Reply #609 on:** December 31, 2008, 05:27:27 PM »

It's already halfway down the fucking hill, honestly. There's more morals in shooting or beating someone to punish their behavior than to change their identity and desires so they can never choose that behavior.

A² · « **Reply #610 on:** December 31, 2008, 05:29:27 PM »

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Quote from: Misha on December 31, 2008, 04:30:16 PM
PhilosopherDirtbike, what is your avatar?

I am not sure who they are. It is a hentai pic of a bunny girl on top of a cat girl with fruit, beads, and what appears to be tree sap smeared all over and stuck inside their privates respectively. I just cropped it to stay classy.

They appear to be aged young.

PhilosopherDirtbike · « **Reply #611 on:** December 31, 2008, 05:42:21 PM »

Nah, no worries, it isn't lolicon. The limbs are about the right size for adults (the arms are two head from the shoulder to the wrist, and the legs seem to be around three to four heads long from the groin to the ankle, though you don't get a good view of them in the pic). Also, if you look close, the one on bottom has breasts.

A² · « **Reply #612 on:** January 01, 2009, 07:30:27 AM »

I thought those were knees.

Büge · « **Reply #613 on:** January 01, 2009, 07:37:51 AM »

Wasn't it Gandhi who said a society is judged by how its prisoners are treated? I mean, wouldn't you want to avoid morally reprehensible crap like Agony Booths and Ludovico treatments?

Thad · « **Reply #614 on:** January 01, 2009, 11:02:45 AM »

...fucking Christ, do I have to be the guy who splits this bullshit?

Not going to do it right now. If someone else wants to do it for me, you may consider moving it to Guild Hall or somewhere while you're at it.

The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji · « **Reply #615 on:** January 02, 2009, 02:19:31 PM »

Nutjob in Aspen plans bombing in protest for the working class, ends up hurting the working class through lost revenue from evacuations.

: Good jorb there, buddy!

Mongrel · « **Reply #616 on:** January 02, 2009, 03:44:58 PM »

72 years old and blowin' shit up, hey that's an achievement on someone's tote board.

Brentai · « **Reply #617 on:** January 02, 2009, 04:38:50 PM »

It's kind of impossible to make any sort of statement without fucking over the working class.

I mean you can pretty much define the working class by "whoever gets fucked over first".

Koah · « **Reply #618 on:** January 02, 2009, 04:50:59 PM »

Bit of a microcosm of Communism, that situation. A Microcommucosmism, if you will.

Brentai · « **Reply #619 on:** January 02, 2009, 04:52:12 PM »

Communism boils down to "everybody gets fucked at once." It's very jazz. Zen, too. Same thing.

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