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[Shinra]

To be honest, as someone who is unfortunately exposed to Fox News about 17 hours a day (it's all the mother in law watches) I can honestly say that of all the voices on Fox, O'Reily is the only one who even approaches reasonable. Something to keep in mind about the Fox network: These people aren't just super conservatives, they are crazy super conservatives. Fox and Friends and Glenn Beck are two shows that only somebody with bipolar going through a mania phase could really appreciate, and those are just two slices of the network. I mean, look at Tucker Carlson, their token Liberal. He wears a bowtie and says Fox News has no conservative bias, whatsoever. The only time he takes a liberal viewpoint is so that the people standing around him can make liberals sound unreasonable. This man is quite literally insane.

I think it's safe to say, where Beck has no comparison that isn't parody, O'Reily is the conservative Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews.

[Büge]

So O'Reilly is sort of the Good Cop?

[Mongrel]

Sometimes I can't believe you folks.

I mean, I understand the chain of logical reasoning on the surface, but O'Reilly as the voice of reason? Good god, how did it come to this.

EDIT: YES THAT'S A RHETORICAL QUESTION.

[Büge]

You misunderstand me. In any Good Cop/Bad Cop scenario, the idea is to get the perp to confess, right? Well, O'Reilly's the Good Cop in that his ideas, no matter how conservative, seem reasonable compared to the rest of Fox News. Someone's more likely to be swayed by his arguments after being battered by the outrageous pundits.

[Mongrel]

Yes, I understand how Bildad and Peleg Good Cop and Bad Cop works.

[Thad]

As long as I'm playing Conservative Apologist, I am honestly a little embarassed I'd never heard about this.  It's also kind of frustrating to think that all along Bush was involved in something that I could point to and say, "hey, I think the current president is awful and I manifestly disagree with is opinions and approaches on virtually everything but here's one thing he did that I have to admit is pretty much Objectively Awesome", but I never heard about it in the media because motivating right-wing focus groups was apparently more important than making everybody to the left of George Will slightly less embarassed of their country.

Weeeell, the abstinence-only chunk of it was pretty dumb, but yeah, by and large it was/is a very positive program.  I remember seeing it in the news around the time Bono and the Gateses were Persons of the Year.

The other thing I have to praise Bush for is his immigration policy -- again, with a small caveat, in this case that the guest worker program was pretty much a giant loophole allowing employers to threaten workers with deportation.  Which of course isn't actually any WORSE than the system we've got now.

So Bush was more moderate on immigration than, apparently, 70% of Arizona.

To be honest, as someone who is unfortunately exposed to Fox News about 17 hours a day (it's all the mother in law watches) I can honestly say that of all the voices on Fox, O'Reily is the only one who even approaches reasonable.

I'm going to have to go with Wallace and Smith.

[Shinra]

Wallace and Smith are paid to be actual newscasters, so they have to at least pretend to be reasonable, though I've heard some pretty hilariously batshit things out of Smith's mouth. For the most part, though, I was really referring to the fox "personalities", meaning the pundits and crrraaaazzzyyyy morning zoo crew.

If you've never partaken, Thad, I really would recommend watching Fox and Friends for a couple of weeks. It's some pretty solid programming. If you're not wanting to auger your eyes and ear canals out with an icepick, strip down naked and rape the entire cast to death by the end of it, you're a better man than I.

[SCD]

Science, Damn it!

US District court Heeds Christian Groups, puts the brakes on Embryonic Stem Cell Research

[Catloaf]

Horrible woman traps an innocent cat in a garbage can then walks away

The cat's fine, but it was stuck in the garbage for 15 hours on a hot day.

[SCD]

So that dog problem?  Well it turns out that the drowning puppy thing was in Bosnia.

It makes sense, given the feral dog problem that was around those parts of the world two decades to a decade ago.  I've heard at least a good half dozen stories of feral dog attacks where in the majority of them, a pack of feral dogs found a mass grave (hey!  Those bodies were just lying there!) and gained the taste for humans.  As a result, dogs were fair game to all the parties involved and selective fire was the option of preference. 

I'm sure considering that there's now been the required bit of civilization (as opposed to state of war) that's been self-governing for a little while now that the attitudes should change for the better in a couple decades.  Otherwise good luck getting to that lady's conscoiusness. 

That lady in Britain's another story though, of course not to many commonwealth subjects understand the reasons and concept behind "freedom of the realm" anymore.  No excuse for her part.

[Mongrel]

We almost had a real-life Snakes-On-A-Plane

[Mongrel]

I just have one question: Who the fuck designs a well with a metal spike at the bottom?

[François]

Kayin.

[Friday]

the boy was fine for a week but then suffered a massive horrible face and died

[Shinra]

British spy found dead, in a padlocked dufflebag in his own bathroom. No obvious cause of death.

What's the point of killing a dude in an un-obvious way if you're going to leave the body in a super obvious way?

[SCD]

To send the message, "Don't fuck with us".  The spy's dossier will tell what they need to know about who (not that you ever know).  But as I recall, this is not the only MI-5 spook to die in the last month...

*Correction:  He was...  I blame the russians, but no one is good with the poisons/radiations as those guys, and no one uses it as much as they have in the UK or Ukraine.

[Büge]

Not guilty in Queensland abortion trial.

Frocto, please tell your countrymen to stop being so crazy. Australia's supposed to be a place to escape to!

[Royal☭]

I find it weird that they can find them not-guilty of the charges, yet it still remains illegal?  Why people gotta be so uppity about abortion?

[Mongrel]

Not guilty in Queensland abortion trial.

Frocto, please tell your countrymen to stop being so crazy. Australia's supposed to be a place to escape to!

I thought it was a place you were sent to as punishment.

[Shinra]

Not guilty in Queensland abortion trial.

Frocto, please tell your countrymen to stop being so crazy. Australia's supposed to be a place to escape to!

how did they get found out, anyway?

seriously, neighbor? mother? her doctor?