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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3361 on: October 23, 2012, 09:05:44 AM »

I hate to say it, but extreme racism from a majority of Israelis is not actually WTF. Well, not these days anyway. Maybe once upon a time...

I think it right and proper to call out this racism as being abhorrent and shocking even if it's part of a pattern.  Same with Republicans.
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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3362 on: October 23, 2012, 09:08:27 AM »

I hate to say it, but extreme racism from a majority of Israelis is not actually WTF. Well, not these days anyway. Maybe once upon a time...

I think it right and proper to call out this racism as being abhorrent and shocking even if it's part of a pattern.  Same with Republicans.

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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3363 on: October 23, 2012, 09:28:35 AM »

9 year old girl wearing a black and white costume accidentally shot by relative, who thought she was a skunk.

Some folk'll never shoot a girl dressed in a black and white costume cause they thought she was a skunk

but then again some folk'll
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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3364 on: October 23, 2012, 07:23:01 PM »

Do we have a What The Fuck, Israel thread?  Maybe we should.

More than 2/3rds of Israelis believe that if Palestine is annexed by Israel, Palestinians should be denied the right to vote.  3/4ths are in favor of segregated roads for Israelis versus Palestinians.  1/3rd want Arabic citizens of Israel to be stripped of the right to vote.  6/10ths believe that Jews should be given preferential hiring treatment for government jobs.  It just goes on like this.

They should also isolate Palestinians into certain neighborhoods, make them wear a star-and-crescent patch and enact laws allowing the seizure of their property without a warrant. Make it so they can't own businesses, ration their food, water and housing, and just, you know, erode their freedoms until they can legally be sent to labour camps. It's a perfect solution. A final solution.
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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3365 on: October 24, 2012, 06:31:15 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ldcx_vswa4o#t=480s Go to 8:00. "You guys are really overstepping your bounds right now."

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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3366 on: October 24, 2012, 08:58:58 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ldcx_vswa4o#t=480s Go to 8:00. "You guys are really overstepping your bounds right now."

This guy is such a dork. Apparently, he considers himself a 'freeman', which is an actual movement (mostly in, surprise, New Hampshire) of people who walk around claiming that law is purely contractual and as they never agreed to any of these laws they are free to follow them or not as they please. When he repeatedly says that "I'm not a person", the idea is that as long as he does not allow himself to be defined by legal terms like Person he is free from obligation to follow the law. They also treat the laws they choose to follow as entirely black and white. I've seen more than a few videos from so-called freemen where they react like toddlers when they get pulled over or stopped for open carrying.

This, of course, is entirely goddamn crazy. I am pretty much 100% sure this is the kind of guy who listens to Alex Jones, has infowars set as his homepage and gets really mad whenever some cop walks or drives past him.
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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3367 on: October 24, 2012, 09:19:02 AM »

I wonder if these people feel sick to their stomachs anytime they use roads.

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« Reply #3368 on: October 24, 2012, 09:42:12 AM »

I wonder if these people feel sick to their stomachs anytime they use roads.

No, they even have a way to rationalize it. Basically, they can go wherever they want and follow their own rules because they're their own country, but because the don't recognize the sovereignty of states or anyone but other freemen, they can use the roads at their leisure because nobody can legally stop them.

They also tend to universally not pay taxes, so I think they probably consider using public services a way of sticking it to the man.
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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3369 on: October 24, 2012, 09:50:55 AM »

It's a shame they never have anything worth stealing.
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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3370 on: October 24, 2012, 09:52:31 AM »

It's a shame they never have anything worth stealing.

Well, they're white upper middle class and mostly male. Obviously, their privilege is going to override their personal values and if someone robs them they are going to dial 911 faster than anybody.
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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3371 on: October 24, 2012, 10:24:43 AM »

For a dude with no laws he sure has a broad definition of "battery". I wonder to what sort of tribunal he would take this accusation. "His blog" doesn't count.
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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3372 on: October 24, 2012, 10:55:50 AM »

This guy is such a dork. Apparently, he considers himself a 'freeman', which is an actual movement (mostly in, surprise, New Hampshire) of people who walk around claiming that law is purely contractual and as they never agreed to any of these laws they are free to follow them or not as they please.

Well, I mean, it's interesting from a philosophical point of view.

There's a bit in one of RAW's books -- Shchrodinger's Cat if I'm not mistaken -- where someone goes to an art show that consists of a guy reciting phrases like "Blue uniforms are real.  Guns are real.  Police are a social fiction.  Brown uniforms are real.  Guns are real.  The Army is a social fiction."

I'm inclined to agree, as far as it goes -- it's not really hippie-dippy "gravity would cease to exist if we all stopped believing in it" nonsense, it's "the police would have no legal authority if we all stopped recognizing it".  Which is true.  A sudden uprising of a few hundred million people would tend to negate the effectiveness of police, laws, and courts.

But they've still got stun guns.  And, barring that sudden uprising of a few hundred million people, you probably shouldn't expect them to face any legal consequences for using one when you try to shove past them.

I'm inclined to think it was probably an excessive use of force and they could have just had security drag him out.  But I don't think it would be worth trying to convince a jury of that.  If he made that video thinking it was going to make him more sympathetic to people, well, he may want to invest in some coaching.
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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3373 on: October 24, 2012, 11:00:03 AM »

I could understand subscribing to a philosophy of "Well things should be/would be better if they were like this."  But jumping right into "I'm going to act like things are like this because I would like it if they were," is just stupid.

...Wow, this actually applies to a whole fuck-ton of idiots.
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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3374 on: October 24, 2012, 11:56:59 AM »

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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3375 on: October 24, 2012, 01:51:08 PM »

I assume they've given some thought to the "if I'm not people, what law prevents me from being beat with a baseball bat" question?

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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3376 on: October 26, 2012, 06:16:59 AM »

I would assume they're just the kind of people who assume they'll win any fight they get into, because they're tough and badass and totally know judo from all the MMA they watch. Barring that, they'll just carry a gun at all times.
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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3377 on: October 26, 2012, 09:13:10 AM »

I would expect that, from their (stupid) perspective, anyone who would do that and is not also a freeman would be constrained by the laws which are, after all, directed at perpetrators not victims.
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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3378 on: October 27, 2012, 09:51:28 AM »

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Re: What the fuck?
« Reply #3379 on: October 27, 2012, 10:50:54 AM »

I guess the next point of escalation is for someone to be murdered for their WoW gear or something like that?
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