Topic: Revenge of Queen Broccoli (Read 14303 times)

Guild · « **Reply #100 on:** January 24, 2010, 09:53:17 PM »

bongo

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #101 on:** January 24, 2010, 10:11:30 PM »

Guild, I want to hear your reasoning. If you think we should switch to Bongo Bill, I'm interested in your ideas, but I have this nagging suspicion that Transportation is trying to distract us from killing Friend, and he's using "proven" wolf strategies to justify his behavior.

Guild · « **Reply #102 on:** January 25, 2010, 08:50:05 AM »

Bongo and Newbie are both werewolves.

That was easy!

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #103 on:** January 25, 2010, 10:37:00 AM »

What was that about dodging questions, Guild?

Staying with Friend.

Guild · « **Reply #104 on:** January 25, 2010, 11:53:35 AM »

bongo is playing this mindfuck game for no damn reason. No matter what he should obv. never vote himself, why the silly game? Fuck that noise, it's odd and therefore suspicious.

Guild · « **Reply #105 on:** January 25, 2010, 11:54:52 AM »

Quote from: Newbie on January 24, 2010, 10:11:30 PM

Guild, I want to hear your reasoning. If you think we should switch to Bongo Bill, I'm interested in your ideas, but I have this nagging suspicion that Transportation is trying to distract us from killing Friend, and he's using "proven" wolf strategies to justify his behavior.

Please elaborate on this. What wolf strategy is he using?

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #106 on:** January 25, 2010, 02:31:47 PM »

Waitin' to hear from Transportation.

Guild · « **Reply #107 on:** January 25, 2010, 02:33:01 PM »

Don't worry about Transportation. Let's worry about you right now. Why are you giving away your vote?

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #108 on:** January 25, 2010, 02:44:47 PM »

Because, as of the time I made that post, I wanted to participate in the game despite having had a fairly busy/distracted time of it. Awful lot of shit going down here! This is a slow, dense game, and I honestly couldn't make heads or tails of what's going on here. But not saying anything - that's awfully suspicious.

I've now got a chance to review things in greater detail, but at the same time, it'd also be suspicious for me to make a big proclamation like that and not follow through. It'd seem like I was out for nothing more than to create a distraction and increase the already-critical levels of confusion. It was nothing more than an admission that I have no idea what's going on, nor whom to believe, so I came up with the only fair way I could think of to participate without having to take time and effort on an effective: one free vote, first come, first serve.

In hindsight, this was probably a worse idea than just staying shut up, but I don't like being the guy who only posts like twice in the whole game.

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #109 on:** January 25, 2010, 05:00:52 PM »

The current votes are as follows.

Friend (Niku, LaserBeing, Newbie)
Newbie (yyler)
Bongo Bill (Transportation, Guild)

LaserBeing and Niku made a convincing case for why Friend is probably evil. LaserBeing was also first to identify Kayma's suspicious behavior last round. I guess it's possible that one or both could be a wolf, but my gut tells me they're good players who pay attention—and if they aren't, lynching Friend will prove it quite effectively.

Transportation's methods are considerably more erratic. First he accused Romosome (claiming to "hate quiet people" as his justification) and then, when Romosome admitted he was being silent intentionally and had basically nothing to say, he turned to other targets, letting Romo go right back to saying and doing nothing.

(Personally, I thought Romosome was innocent for a different reason; yyler's counterpoint demonstrated that I'd overlooked which other players had already voted for Romosome prior to Kayma's bandwagon-jump, which is why I now believe that we can't know for sure whether he's innocent or not without more information.)

Since letting Romo off the hook, he's made a big point of using the strategy guide to justify his votes: Romo can't be eliminated as a suspect because wolves have to "vote for your own kind as much as you can". Vote for me because I used an "appeal to incredulity", which is basically Rule 1 on your list of innocent tactics. Vote for Bongo because he's trying to do what Kayma did last round.

Basically, I think he's playing investigator to distract from the attempt to lynch Friend. He's asking all the "right" questions which will frame the investigation in a way that puts him beyond suspicion—he never voted for Kayma, but he's obviously aware that wolves should vote for their own, so he couldn't be a wolf. If the proven wolf strategy is to lurk, hell, be one of the most active posters!

This is the impression Transportation is giving me, so I'm hesitant to vote for Bongo just because he wants to. Giving your vote away is a terrible move and probably indicates evil, but I have more confidence in the case for friend, at this point.

Friend · « **Reply #110 on:** January 25, 2010, 06:15:07 PM »

Niku did not make a case for why I am evil. Laserbeing posted a bunch of what he called, "Circumstantial evidence".
His first piece of evidence is his own interpretation of my posts that he decided to project onto everyone else.
The second, about me revenge voting Transportation was plain wrong.
Third, I was hardly alone in my silence. Currently at least half of the current survivors have gone without posting for two days or more.

I'm okay with Niku accusing me without needing to explain himself.
I'm okay with Laserbeing voting for me based on his crappy reasoning - because to me, it sounds like he was finding an excuse to vote for me, rather than voting because of the evidence actually convincing him.

But for someone to fall for that crap?
Newbie, I'm disappointed.

Guild · « **Reply #111 on:** January 25, 2010, 06:23:31 PM »

Yeah, I like a Newbie lynch.

Guild · « **Reply #112 on:** January 25, 2010, 06:24:56 PM »

you speak of the attempt to lynch friend as if it were a crusade

how are you so sure of friend?

please re-explain your case to my satisfaction to get my vote off of you

LaserBeing · « **Reply #113 on:** January 25, 2010, 06:57:27 PM »

Quote from: Friend on January 25, 2010, 06:15:07 PM

Laserbeing posted a bunch of what he called, "Circumstantial evidence".
His first piece of evidence is his own interpretation of my posts that he decided to project onto everyone else.

I don't know what else you want from me. It's not like I can lift clawprints off SCD's half-eaten corpse.

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The second, about me revenge voting Transportation was plain wrong.

I got the motivation wrong but the end result is the same. A meaningless vote that put you in no danger of revealing anything, one way or the other.

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Third, I was hardly alone in my silence. Currently at least half of the current survivors have gone without posting for two days or more.

Maybe they are wolves too.

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I'm okay with Niku accusing me without needing to explain himself.
I'm okay with Laserbeing voting for me based on his crappy reasoning - because to me, it sounds like he was finding an excuse to vote for me, rather than voting because of the evidence actually convincing him.

But for someone to fall for that crap?
Newbie, I'm disappointed.

So, if I am reading this correctly, you're all right with Niku being, in your estimation, a wolf.
And you're fine with me brewing up a bunch of cockamamie BS to justify my own, presumably wolfish, agenda against you (the motivation for which you have yet to explain).
But, after saying all that, you're going to cast your vote for, by your argument, an innocent who was just too dumb to not get tricked by two wolves?

That is the most wolfish thing you have done yet.

Friend · « **Reply #114 on:** January 25, 2010, 07:05:13 PM »

Oh god I'm melting

Friend · « **Reply #115 on:** January 25, 2010, 07:24:00 PM »

Quote from: LaserBeing on January 25, 2010, 06:57:27 PM

Quote from: Friend on January 25, 2010, 06:15:07 PM

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I'm okay with Niku accusing me without needing to explain himself.
I'm okay with Laserbeing voting for me based on his crappy reasoning - because to me, it sounds like he was finding an excuse to vote for me, rather than voting because of the evidence actually convincing him.

But for someone to fall for that crap?
Newbie, I'm disappointed.

So, if I am reading this correctly, you're all right with Niku being, in your estimation, a wolf.
And you're fine with me brewing up a bunch of cockamamie BS to justify my own, presumably wolfish, agenda against you (the motivation for which you have yet to explain).
But, after saying all that, you're going to cast your vote for, by your argument, an innocent who was just too dumb to not get tricked by two wolves?

That is the most wolfish thing you have done yet.

Good job at twisting my words around. At no point did I call either you or Niku a wolf. Once again, you're assuming too much.

To your second point, I've already explained why I didn't change my vote.

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #116 on:** January 25, 2010, 07:42:00 PM »

I'm voting for the first person that I'm told to vote for! Transportation, you didn't confirm your purchase so I'm going with a less ambiguous customer. Newbie

Guild · « **Reply #117 on:** January 25, 2010, 07:43:07 PM »

i believe that's 4 for newbie

yyler, me, bongo and friend

Kazz · « **Reply #118 on:** January 25, 2010, 08:36:15 PM »

Ok.

He was a wolf. Bark bark!

Night roles please.

Guild · « **Reply #119 on:** January 25, 2010, 09:22:14 PM »

One of these is a wolf, possibly two:

Bongo
LaserBeing
Niku
Romosome

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