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Author Topic: Revenge of Queen Broccoli  (Read 14335 times)

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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2010, 03:23:09 PM »

There's nothing solid I can use to back myself up as an innocent just yet,  We're all in a room and nothing has happened. 

Right now, I strongly also believe someone should be lynched, and while I have nothing solid to go on, Romo still seems the most suspicious of the lot, albiet less suspicious during the last round we played where I didn't get hanged by some delusional fools who thought I was a wolf.  Once I have something strong to say, I'll hit the point hard and fast. 
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2010, 04:37:51 PM »

gah, that was directed at transportation, in regards to his quote of newbie saying we should lynch a quiet person

i'm basically saying to transportation: Newbie already said he was doing this vote-for-the-quiet thing, so you're lynching him regardless of what he does?
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2010, 04:58:44 PM »

SHIFTING BANDWAGON ALGORITHMS

LYNCHING ROMOSOME

End this damn day already.
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2010, 06:44:04 PM »

Yeah, all I have to say re: the chat logs is pretty much what Newbie did.  Guild's trying really hard to look innocent.  His "you're not voting for Romosome and instead voting for Newbie WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT" line of questioning pretty much sounds like a person who has only one set of enemies rather than seeing two potential threats to me, so he actually looks less innocent.  Oops!

He also misconstrued logical fallacies and half-hearted replies with legitimate attempts to talk to him.  The truth is closer to nobody gives a shit about talking to Guild about wolfgames outside of the thread, and barely give a shit in the thread.  So yeah, I fully expect Newbie to give plenty to chew on whenever he has a finger pointed at him, like I told Guild.  And he did just that.  So I rescind my vote for Newbie, because nothing he's said so far actually strikes me as being evil.

Congrats, Guild!
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2010, 07:01:25 PM »

your reason for voting for me is that you used illogical statements and dodged my questions, then?

you made no sense at all today in chat, and you finished by telling me innocents should lie to protect themselves, which is a fundamental idea that i disagree with: I think innocents MUST always be logical to a fault to win.

Not voting you because it appears you just have a different idea of how to play this game than me, making you wrong, not necessarily a wolfoli.

Kayma for rushing the lynch. Wolfpiler.
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2010, 07:22:33 PM »

i'm basically saying to transportation: Newbie already said he was doing this vote-for-the-quiet thing, so you're lynching him regardless of what he does?

He said to vote for quiet people, which makes sense; but then listed SCD who was actually doing things, which does not?

Everyone is telling me Newbie does this sort of thing all the time so I guess I'll rescind it.

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Romo's probably going to get lynched when some people wander in here, but we should probably let him talk first.
SHIFTING BANDWAGON ALGORITHMS

LYNCHING ROMOSOME

End this damn day already.
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2010, 07:31:28 PM »

Transport: Who would you scry instantly right now if you could?
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2010, 07:33:31 PM »

Bongo, same question.
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2010, 08:15:27 PM »

your reason for voting for me is that you used illogical statements and dodged my questions, then?

you made no sense at all today in chat, and you finished by telling me innocents should lie to protect themselves, which is a fundamental idea that i disagree with: I think innocents MUST always be logical to a fault to win.

Not voting you because it appears you just have a different idea of how to play this game than me, making you wrong, not necessarily a wolfoli.

Kayma for rushing the lynch. Wolfpiler.

Kayma is rushing to the lynch I think, but what I really think is suspicious is how you have two identical cases of suspiciousness, but you only mark one as suspicious.
Listen to this hypothetical situation. Lets say, Yyler votes for Romosome, saying something to the extent of, "we should get Day 1 over". He is the 5th person to vote for Romosome. Now let's say you remove your vote for vote for Romosome, bringing the vote down to 4. Now Kayma votes for Romosome, saying something like, "End this damn day already". Then you pounce on him for being suspicious. Now go over the thread again and realize this is not a hypothetical situation, but really the situation at hand. Now, for all I know, Kayma could be Broccoli or Wolf or even vanilla inno, but why is it that in two (as for as I can tell) identical cases, you find one case more suspicious? Because even though you say that the innocents must be logical to a fault, I'm not seeing your flow of logic in this situation.
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2010, 08:17:31 PM »

I would just use a random number generator as there are 12 players, 4 wolves, and 2 Broccoli giving me a 50% chance of finding someone evil. It'd be better than going on Day 1 hunches at this point.
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2010, 08:21:45 PM »

Friend: I was voting Niku for his (perceived, by me) chainsaw defense (attacking a partner's attackers) of Romo. I am voting Kayma for rushing the lynch.

Quote from: me, first thing i said to Niku
09:55   <Guild>   niku you are attacking newbie to take pressure off of romo
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2010, 08:31:30 PM »

Guild, you're right. I'm rushing the lynch; I said as much.

If you want to play detective, do it up. Vote rescinded to let Romo talk.
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2010, 08:36:21 PM »

I wasn't addressing the niku thing. I just left that there because I forgot about it.
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2010, 08:40:44 PM »

nobody's taking my pressuring seriously

if you think i have any valid points, you could lend a hand
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2010, 08:53:39 PM »

A voting summary on day 1?!

:wat: :lol: :tldr:

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Bongo Bill votes for Guild.
Newbie votes for Bongo Bill.
LaserBeing votes for Newbie.
Yyler votes for LaserBeing.
Friend votes for Yyler.
Friday breaks the pattern and votes Romosome.
SCD votes Niku for not posting.
Niku revenge-votes SCD.
Romosome revenge-votes Friday.
Transportation votes Friend, possibly because that's who Friday should have voted for to maintain the pattern?
Kayma votes Friday, putting her at 2 votes.
LaserBeing votes Kayma for "first second vote".
Friend revenge-votes for Transportation.
Newbie threatens to vote Guild for not posting.
Romosome misreads Transportation's vote as another vote for Friday and rescinds his own vote to head off a potential bandwagon.
Newbie votes for Romosome for backing off of Friday.
SCD seconds the vote for Romosome.
Guild thirds the vote for Romosome.
Niku votes for Newbie for over-analyzing.
Guild questions Niku's motivations and conclusions, but doesn't move his own vote.
Yyler sneers.
Newbie explains his reasoning.
Yyler votes Romosome to try to end the day.
Guild rescinds to postpone the day's end.
Transportation votes for Newbie for suggesting I'd scry SCD if I could.
Kayma votes for Romosome to try to end the day.
Niku votes for Guild for over-analysis.
Guild votes for Kayma for trying to end the day.
Transportation rescinds.
Kayma rescinds.

SCD is keeping a low profile and following the thread, but he's not posting or voting a lot. Kind of curious why we haven't heard more from Bongo Bill and LaserBeing, too. Friday and Romosome appear to be away from the game.
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2010, 09:02:52 PM »

I'm waiting to hear from Romo and Friday, mostly. And amidst this perfect storm of spurious logic I've yet to hear a single compelling reason for me to shift my vote away from Kayma.

He was the first to bandwagon, and then later rushed the lynch. It's entirely possible that it's just legitimate impatience. It's still the most suspicious thing to me so far.
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2010, 09:29:14 PM »

I don't post on day 1 apart from a random number generator post because all my previous attempts to actually use logic on day 1 have met with failure.

that being said

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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2010, 09:54:18 PM »

Hoo boy, Guild AND Friday have their sites on me. I'm as good as dead.

Think about this, though: I voted first for Friday (to start a bandwagon) and then for Romsome (to strengthen one). This is my day one MO: drop a player, reveal a role, see who winds up dead, then start the detective work. Frankly, if I'm lynched, you guys get the same result... I just leave the equation. So it goes.

That said, Lee-ham jumped on me the second I tried to start my own bandwagon. If your instincts say that I'm a wolf/vegetable, you might also consider him.

Further, Guild and Niku stand out to me, for opposing reasons. Niku, for being strange, and Guild, for being the white knight detective. All day 1 conjecture, of course. Draw your own conclusions.
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2010, 11:01:54 AM »

I think we've got a pretty informative day 1 going on here, which is a rarity. We oughtn't squander it... then again, we've probably gotten the information we need.

Guild, to answer your question, if I could insta-scry someone right now, it'd be you just as a matter of best practices, because Cait isn't here.

I wasn't too sure at first, but I'm growing fond of the idea that Kayma made a mistake.
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Re: Revenge of Queen Broccoli
« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2010, 11:30:13 AM »

CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

Voted for / Voted by

Guild / Niku
Newbie / Transportation
Romosome / SCD, Yyler, Kayma
Kayma / LaserBeing, Guild, Friday, Bongo
Transportation / Friend
SCD / Newbie

pretty sure this is accurate.
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