Topic: Star Trek (Read 31558 times)

TA · « **Reply #120 on:** May 04, 2011, 09:22:56 PM »

Each floor plate probably just has a battery in it.

McDohl · « **Reply #121 on:** May 04, 2011, 10:43:34 PM »

The battery is probably for redundant backup power, drawn and kept fully charged from the primary power source, that being the warp core. At least, that's sort of how it works on a modern day aircraft carrier. The reactors do propulsion, electrical power for the ship and steam for the aircraft catapults. There. Practical explanation based on modern-day principles. Except for the whole gravitons and graviolis thing.

Bal · « **Reply #122 on:** May 05, 2011, 12:09:51 AM »

I liked how Babylon 5 held that artificial gravity was rare among the space faring races. Most obviously represented by the titular station's huge spinning drum. They even went so far as to have areas of the station that were close to the middle have low to essentially zero gravity. Any human ship depicted without a rotation section, or in a part of the ship that wasn't spinning, showed people strapped into their seats.

Narn ships, for instance, never had spinning sections, but they didn't have artificial gravity either. They just strapped themselves in.

Only much more advanced races like the Minbari had artificial gravity, and they were said to be manipulating gravitational fields derived from the drive system, which is happily vague. The Centauri seemed to have it too, but it was never explained, and they only seemed to have it on their very large vessels.

I'm not sure anyone ever claimed to have 1g, except possibly the Minbari, because you don't need a full Earth gravity to walk around.

LaserBeing · « **Reply #123 on:** May 05, 2011, 01:17:48 AM »

Babylon 5 is still sort of a high-water mark for "hard" SF on TV. I admit it, I get a little warm fuzzy feeling every time I see a Starfury pointed in a direction other than its angle of motion.

Quote from: Bal on May 05, 2011, 12:09:51 AM

I'm not sure anyone ever claimed to have 1g, except possibly the Minbari, because you don't need a full Earth gravity to walk around.

True, although we're still not really sure what the long-term health effects of less than 1g are. That said, the Gundam folks certainly never seemed to have trouble getting by on partial gravity (of course, they have it easy, what with being cartoons and all)

Bal · « **Reply #124 on:** May 05, 2011, 01:31:38 AM »

If you have enough gravity to walk around, then you can exercise to make up the difference. They already do that to mitigate the effects of micro-gravity, and while it's not a cure, it does help. With more gravity, I'm sure it would help more.

Büge · « **Reply #125 on:** May 05, 2011, 04:58:22 AM »

I think I remember one scene in Enterprise, back when I was still giving it a chance, where the black guy had found a weak spot in the ship's gravitational field and was sitting on the ceiling.

Mongrel · « **Reply #126 on:** May 05, 2011, 05:11:20 AM »

I remember that! And I think I watched less than 5 episodes, easy.

McDohl · « **Reply #127 on:** May 05, 2011, 06:10:13 AM »

Quote from: Büge on May 05, 2011, 04:58:22 AM

I think I remember one scene in Enterprise, back when I was still giving it a chance, where the black guy had found a weak spot in the ship's gravitational field and was sitting on the ceiling.

That was in the pilot.

Büge · « **Reply #128 on:** May 05, 2011, 08:46:25 AM »

Quote from: Büge on May 05, 2011, 04:58:22 AM

back when I was still giving it a chance

Mongrel · « **Reply #129 on:** May 05, 2011, 05:32:36 PM »

So.... can anyone who actually subjected themselves to the whole thing give a three-paragraphs-or-less plot summary of the series?

Like I lost interest and simultaneously had no TV when it was big and never bothered to catch up or even watch isolated episodes. At that point I had long been coming down from my HUGE TREK NERD days and Voyager had killed most of my real interest pretty well, so I just didn't pay much attention at all to Enterprise, then my friends were all saying it was horrible, so that was that.

Norondor · « **Reply #130 on:** May 05, 2011, 06:16:01 PM »

Quote from: Mongrel on May 05, 2011, 05:32:36 PM

So.... can anyone who actually subjected themselves to the whole thing give a three-paragraphs-or-less plot summary of the series?

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Büge · « **Reply #131 on:** May 05, 2011, 06:50:56 PM »

Quote from: Mongrel on May 05, 2011, 05:32:36 PM

So.... can anyone who actually subjected themselves to the whole thing give a three-paragraphs-or-less plot summary of the series?

It's been a long road, getting from there to here.

JDigital · « **Reply #132 on:** May 05, 2011, 06:54:39 PM »

Enterprise starts off like any Star Trek, except everyone is wearing X-Com jumpsuits and grumbling that the Vulcans won't give them technology. They explore planet of the week until space-9/11 happens, whereupon they load the ship up with marines and go hunt space-Al Qaeda. It turns out the bad guys are funded by future aliens who pay their species in genetic enhancements.

Captain Archer gets teleported into the future by future-Starfleet, which alters the timeline enough to destroy future-Starfleet, leaving Archer stranded in some ruins. Luckily, [I missed the following episode], and the Enterprise saves the day. They have a big party for the crew back on Earth, and Archer suggests that Earth found a sort of united "federation" of planets.

McDohl · « **Reply #133 on:** May 05, 2011, 07:01:02 PM »

Mirror Universe Enterprise was pretty super awesome.

And I thought the Battle of Wolf 359 was Space-9/11. Then again, I haven't seen the comparable thing in Enterprise, so I can't compare.

But I've heard Wolf 359 being called the Star Trek 9/11. I mean, the single Borg cube wiped out most of the Federation's ships, and the Enterprise was only able to stop the cube because they were bloody-minded enough to throw everything but the kitchen sink at the problem.

I think what makes Wolf 359 such a powerful event is we got to see it from two perspectives: Riker's, where we just sorta see ships blown up. Then, a few years later, we see it from Ben Sisko's point of view, and wow.

Friday · « **Reply #134 on:** May 05, 2011, 07:21:27 PM »

I recently (like two years back) watched through Enterprise, every episode. Personally, I don't see why it gets such a bad rap. Or rather, I do, but why people tolerated Voyager's shit BUT NOT ENTERPRISE'S SHIT is beyond me.

Anyway, Enterprise's storyline changed season to season.

SEASON 1:

Exploring! A real sense of wonder as the first humans to ever leave their safe little bubble and set down on new planets and meet new species. Turns out the galaxy is pretty fucking hostile! Better actually get our ships some weapons! Also, time shenanigans/temporal cold war.

SEASON 2:

More Exploring! Turns out the Vulcans are sort of... dicks? Also, time shenanigans/temporal cold war. Also also, Borg Episode.

SEASON 3:

Oh shit! A giant space ball flew to earth and blew up Florida from orbit! Millions dead! Tucker's sister dead! The ball came from the Expanse, a weird region of space that drives Vulcans CRAAAAAAZY! Go kill whoever made the ball! Turns out some people who were being manipulated by time shenanigans made the ball! Oh no stop the bigger ball that is going to crack the entire planet earth! Also, time shenanigans/temporal cold war. Also also, Zombie Vulcan Episode. Also also also, the best episode in the series where an alternate timeline is explored where Earth got blown up and the remaining 6,000 humans struggle to survive while being hunted down to extinction by the Xindi.

SEASON 4:

Oh shit! The time shenanigans have invoked Godwin's law, and gone back to aid the Nazis win the war! Archer and co stop them. Silik, the main time shenanigan antagonist, teams up with Archer to fight the greater time shenanithreat and dies. Then some shit happens and it turns out, that plot thread from season 2 about the Vulcan's being dicks? Yeah. Romulans. Shadow governments. Drone ships. Later, an episode taking place entirely within the Mirror Universe without any of the original characters entering it. Mirror Archer is a dick! Mirror Hoshi is a bigger dick! OH SHIT WE ARE BEING CANCELED BETTER WRAP THIS UP UHHHH JUMP AHEAD X YEARS TO THE FOUNDING OF THE FEDERATION AS SEEN THROUGH THE EYES OF RIKER DURING THE TNG EPISODE ABOUT THE PEGASUS YOU KNOW THE ONE WITH THE SHIP THAT COULD PHASE CLOAK STUCK IN THE ASTEROID THE END

Mongrel · « **Reply #135 on:** May 05, 2011, 08:08:19 PM »

Quote from: Friday on May 05, 2011, 07:21:27 PM

JUMP AHEAD X YEARS TO THE FOUNDING OF THE FEDERATION AS SEEN THROUGH THE EYES OF RIKER DURING THE TNG EPISODE ABOUT THE PEGASUS YOU KNOW THE ONE WITH THE SHIP THAT COULD PHASE CLOAK STUCK IN THE ASTEROID THE END

No shit, really?! Ahahahaha! What a TNG episode to choose. That's gas.

TA · « **Reply #136 on:** May 05, 2011, 08:08:28 PM »

I keep hearing that it's two seasons of being terrible, including an episode worse than Threshold, and then with season 3 it actually starts to get watchable.

Mongrel · « **Reply #137 on:** May 05, 2011, 08:19:50 PM »

Quote from: TA on May 05, 2011, 08:08:28 PM

I keep hearing that it's two seasons of being terrible, including an episode worse than Threshold, and then with season 3 it actually starts to get watchable.

Not to beat a dead horse, but... I could not at all remember what series that was an episode from. Sure enough, when I typed "Star Trek Voyager" and "Threshold" as the first search, there it was.

I actually remember watching that one and MAN, it really did not bear remembering.

Ocksi · « **Reply #138 on:** May 05, 2011, 09:00:10 PM »

Quote from: JDigital on May 05, 2011, 06:54:39 PM

Captain Archer

I'm really hoping- having never watched an episode of Enterprise- that when you say Archer, it's a euphemism, much like Space-Al Qaeda. It would just be the best thing.

Thad · « **Reply #139 on:** May 05, 2011, 09:12:20 PM »

Quote from: Friday on May 05, 2011, 07:21:27 PM

I recently (like two years back) watched through Enterprise, every episode. Personally, I don't see why it gets such a bad rap. Or rather, I do, but why people tolerated Voyager's shit BUT NOT ENTERPRISE'S SHIT is beyond me.

Because fool me once, shame on, shame on you... ... ... ...fool me can't get fooled again.

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