Topic: Star Trek (Read 31496 times)

McDohl · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2010, 02:35:33 PM »

How 'bout VOYAGER?!

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Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #21 on:** January 24, 2010, 02:39:49 PM »

It had a pretty great Opening, at the very least.

I've always been pretty partial to the more mundane episodes. You know, the ones that didn't feature some horrible calamity or catastrophe. The ones more about what life is like on the Enterprise.

Esperath · « **Reply #22 on:** January 24, 2010, 02:40:26 PM »

Regarding DS9:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6KGOkzbf_c

Start at 0:41 for good times.

Walker · « **Reply #23 on:** January 24, 2010, 02:42:54 PM »

Quote from: Büge on January 24, 2010, 01:22:02 PM

In the Pale Moonlight for DS9. Same deal. Sisko's got a hard decision to make and he has to live with it. Also, Garak. This one is a little different, mostly because it's international intrigue stuff, but also because during TNG era Trek, the Federation society was painted as a utopia, and it was refreshing to see someone of that utopian society actually get blood on their hands. Also, Garak.

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. This is exactly the reason DS9 is my favorite Trek series.

McDohl · « **Reply #24 on:** January 24, 2010, 02:45:06 PM »

Another one I plan on watching: Thine Own Self.

Troi has a crisis of career stagnation, and ends up getting promoted to Commander.

I think what prompted this was the Disaster episode, where she had to be in charge of the bridge when everything was shut down.

Esperath · « **Reply #25 on:** January 24, 2010, 02:46:30 PM »

Yeah, that is a pretty good ep. [spoiler]Killing Geordi is fun![/spoiler]

Esperath · « **Reply #26 on:** January 24, 2010, 02:49:15 PM »

Oh yeah, 7x11 Parallels is great. This may actually be my favorite episode, though Tapestry, Timescape, and Cause and Effect are all wonderful. I really enjoy ~~all~~ most of the timespace distortion eps.

McDohl · « **Reply #27 on:** January 24, 2010, 02:56:35 PM »

There's a bunch of DVD collections out there that are called "Fan Collectives". They have a common thread that brings all of them together. I own the Q Fan Collective, but I've seen Time Travel and The Borg on shelves.

Walker · « **Reply #28 on:** January 24, 2010, 02:57:23 PM »

Quote from: Esperath on January 24, 2010, 02:40:26 PM

Regarding DS9:

(Tribble Barfight Video)

Start at 0:41 for good times.

Ah yes, thank you for reminding me how awesome that episode was.

Mothra · « **Reply #29 on:** January 24, 2010, 02:58:13 PM »

Quote from: McDohl on January 24, 2010, 02:35:33 PM

How 'bout VOYAGER?!

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Turns out there is one decent episode of Voyager!

A YEAR OF HELL

(starring Red from That 70's Show as the big bad)

Büge · « **Reply #30 on:** January 24, 2010, 03:23:45 PM »

Quote from: Esperath on January 24, 2010, 02:29:52 PM

5x18 Cause and Effect

"Well, Jean-Luc, from what you're telling me, it seems your inability to form a... lasting romantic relationship could stem from some unresolved issues with your father. Were you and he very close?"

Kashan · « **Reply #31 on:** January 24, 2010, 04:22:50 PM »

Quote from: Kabbage on January 24, 2010, 02:58:13 PM

Quote from: McDohl on January 24, 2010, 02:35:33 PM
How 'bout VOYAGER?!

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Turns out there is one decent episode of Voyager!

A YEAR OF HELL

(starring Red from That 70's Show as the big bad)

That was the episode that made me quit watching the series. I kept hanging with the series because there were all the hints from early time travel episodes about the "year of hell." I had visions of a season long arc where the ship became gradually more and more ragged as the voyager crew fought off foes on every side with no resources and heavy casualties. Instead I got a two part time travel episode that wrote itself out of continuity.

Walker · « **Reply #32 on:** January 24, 2010, 04:37:22 PM »

I only bothered to watch a couple episodes of Voyager. From what I hear I'm not really missing much.

Esperath · « **Reply #33 on:** January 24, 2010, 04:37:46 PM »

That's actually the part that bugs me most about the late-DS9 and beyond episodes. Star Trek TNG focused heavily on diplomacy and exploration, but when Bab5 outwrote all of the DS9 diplomacy episodes, the Star Trek writers switched to "blow lots of shit up with phasers and torpedoes" mode and never went back. Voyager and Enterprise more or less followed this tradition.

I *liked* the fact that the Enterprise D rarely had to use its weapon systems. It was a rare and special occasion when the Battle Bridge made an appearance.

DS9 was handicapped from the beginning on the "exploration" side since they only had shuttles for half the series, but I feel like the interspecies interaction bits had a lot of potential. Voyager was supposed to be about exploration, but the exploration bits only extended as far as "the things we encounter on a straight line path back home." Which were mostly Borg.

Mothra · « **Reply #34 on:** January 24, 2010, 04:44:48 PM »

Yeah, action was really not what Star Trek was supposed to be about. Maybe some sweet shoot-outs or fist fights here and there, but I mean, the Federation is supposed to be a fleet of science vessels. It was supposed to be about figuring shit out, not barrelling the DELTA FLIER through an exploding sun every week.

Quote from: Kashan on January 24, 2010, 04:22:50 PM

Quote from: Kabbage on January 24, 2010, 02:58:13 PM
Turns out there is one decent episode of Voyager!

A YEAR OF HELL

(starring Red from That 70's Show as the big bad)

That was the episode that made me quit watching the series. I kept hanging with the series because there were all the hints from early time travel episodes about the "year of hell." I had visions of a season long arc where the ship became gradually more and more ragged as the voyager crew fought off foes on every side with no resources and heavy casualties. Instead I got a two part time travel episode that wrote itself out of continuity.

Well understand first that the entire show is a complete farce. Voyager is just Lost in Space where the robot is a STONE COLD FOX. They used time travel so heavily and so constantly that by the time they were done I'm pretty sure the REAL Voyager crew had enjoyed a thoroughly uneventful cruise from A to B with no apparent mishaps along the way.

You have to go into Year of Hell with the understanding that nothing in Voyager ever mattered, ever. Just enjoy the spectacle.

Niku · « **Reply #35 on:** January 24, 2010, 06:59:56 PM »

My favorite episode is the 2009 movie.

Brentai · « **Reply #36 on:** January 24, 2010, 07:02:39 PM »

Star Trek is generally better the closer it gets to Star Wars.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #37 on:** January 24, 2010, 07:02:54 PM »

Niku likes the less-brainy, more explosion filled Star Trek.

Occasionally I throw episodes of TOG on and enjoy the shit out of it. Some episodes fall into camp and ham-fisted writing, but others can be gripping and interesting. Though I tend to find myself going for the look and aesthetic of the show more than the actual plots.

Niku · « **Reply #38 on:** January 24, 2010, 07:07:53 PM »

To be fair I have seen maybe a grand total of five episodes that are not the 2009 Star Trek.

Walker · « **Reply #39 on:** January 24, 2010, 07:16:38 PM »

I loved the 2009 Star Trek movie. But I am a fan of both schools; the brainy Trek school and the non-brainy, explosion-filled Trek school.

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