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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #220 on: September 14, 2012, 03:03:46 PM »

Their society has always been closer to pre-occupation Japan than Russia, but even in TOS the Klingons (and Romulans) were portrayed with a measure of real respect.  They were outright enemies to be sure, but not evil per se; even as the Klingons went around executing hostages they did it with an air of unhappy military efficiency as opposed to HA HA HA STOP US NOW AMERICAN CAPTAIN KIRK.  Compared to how the bad guys were portrayed at the time in stuff like James Bond, it WAS a head above.

TNG of course drives home the idea that differences CAN be reconciled, but even then the groundwork for that had already been laid.  The first episode the Klingons appear in ends with an enforced peace between the two races, and of course by TwT they've ratcheted down their open hostility from genocidal warfare to civil disturbance.  It's progress!
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #221 on: September 24, 2012, 04:57:29 PM »





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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #222 on: September 25, 2012, 04:35:47 AM »

@levarburton:

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #223 on: November 07, 2012, 10:23:54 AM »





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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #224 on: November 07, 2012, 02:35:44 PM »

TIL: Avery Brooks - Beard = RuPaul
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #225 on: November 07, 2012, 02:54:29 PM »

That's Michael Dorn.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #226 on: November 13, 2012, 02:13:41 PM »

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #227 on: March 10, 2013, 02:19:24 PM »



"Cuteness leak!! We got a cuteness leak in the engine core! I estimate two minutes to a woof core breach!"
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #228 on: March 29, 2013, 08:52:14 AM »

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #230 on: May 20, 2013, 11:26:27 AM »

Welp, saw Into Darkness earlier today. It's good, and I loved a lot of things about this one, but lordy, it needs to take a breather every now and then. The last half of the movie is pretty much one exhaustingly sustained action sequence, funneled through an explosion and then continually punched in the face.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #231 on: May 20, 2013, 12:24:26 PM »

Star Trek 2: The Trekening was almost frame-for-frame exactly what I expected. Don't take that entirely as a condemnation. Darkness wasn't something that'd force me to light a cigar halfway through with the deliberate intention of being thrown out (so far only The Crow: City of Angels, Queen of the Damned, Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and Avatar have warranted lighting the emergency escape cigar. And no, I didn't mean The Last Airbender there. Seriously, fuck Avatar.)

I don't really have anything nice to say, either. Good job, JJ. That sure was an action movie where you could make a drinking game out of callbacks to older moments that were more effective when they were made on a fraction of this film's catering budget.

So... yeah. Didn't hate it. Blame Cumberbatch doing what he does, to the point that I'm really disappointed they didn't [spoiler]leave Kirk dead and make him captain[/spoiler]. Next up: Cumberbatch is a sociopathic genius Nazi dragon. The rest of the movie doesn't matter. Is he from the moon? Sure. Fuck it.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #232 on: May 20, 2013, 12:37:53 PM »

Yeah, agreed.

There were a couple points where I was really enjoying their departure from the expected, in particular [spoiler]Kirk and Khan working together[/spoiler]. That whole stretch from [spoiler]launching out of the airlock to their escape from the bridge[/spoiler] was great. Loved it. Wish there had been more of it.

Really, they could've worked it so [spoiler]Khan seemed like he could genuinely be an ally, then maybe had Spock become more suspicious of him after talking to Old Spock, while Kirk trusted him more. When they had Khan kill Pike, any chance of some friendship went out the window. Would've been cool to see them as allies, then later enemies, instead of just always as enemies from the get-go[/spoiler].
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #233 on: May 20, 2013, 12:39:19 PM »

I made a joke to my friends that Into Darkness is like any of the old Trek Films except there is a continuous phaser fight going on in the foreground of every scene throughout the entire movie.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #234 on: May 20, 2013, 12:41:00 PM »

They were almost literally inside of an explosion for the better part of that movie.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #235 on: May 20, 2013, 12:42:10 PM »

So is this [spoiler]Space Seed + Wrath of Khan, or just, like, extended, much less creepy misogyny Space Seed?[/spoiler]
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #236 on: May 20, 2013, 12:47:20 PM »

So is this [spoiler]Space Seed + Wrath of Khan, or just, like, extended, much less creepy misogyny Space Seed?[/spoiler]

You just described two scenarios that would have worked just fine with me, but that didn't happen. Really, it was a lot more like Friday said.

Actually, can we just write a flash script to arbitrarily add lens flare, shaky-cam, random phaser battles and constant shouting to 60s Star Trek episodes? Because that might be more cost effective.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #237 on: May 20, 2013, 12:51:30 PM »

WARNING: below spoiler is a main plot spoiler to Into Darkness.

[spoiler]It's Khan but he got woke up by someone else and was used by Section 31 (the bad/clandestine/do whatever it takes to make humans win part of the Federation from DS9 and Enterprise) to prepare for the coming war with the Klingons. But then he went rogue.[/spoiler]

There are tons of callbacks and similarities to what you're referring to, of course, but the story is pretty different.

It's good. Go see it. Just remember that there will be a guy making phaser and explosion noises in your ear whenever he's not going AND THEN KIRK FUCKED TWO CHICKS WITH TAILS.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #238 on: May 20, 2013, 12:54:15 PM »

Friday is 100% correct on this

Also I have to say that the new warp core is boss as hell
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #239 on: May 20, 2013, 12:57:23 PM »

But also we have to [spoiler]give the first third of the movie to Kirk's father issues so that we know why he's super pissed at Khan. Because without that you know goddamn well they'd be the best of friends... or more.

KIRK <3 KHAN OTP 4 EVA.[/spoiler]
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