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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #620 on: August 18, 2008, 02:51:23 AM »

I AM MASTER ASSASSIN OF THE CREED
I got every achievement except for the flags
Because seriously.
Fuck the flags.
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #621 on: August 18, 2008, 03:19:02 AM »



fuck these things
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #622 on: August 18, 2008, 03:25:46 AM »

You are now imagining "I Love The World" except it's "Fuck the world"
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #623 on: August 18, 2008, 03:35:56 AM »

When I played the demo, I spent parts to upgrade my assault rifle, and ten minutes later they said "Here, have a minigun that is superior in all regards" and I went "fuck!"

How does that work? Do they keep giving you new, better weapons throughout the game that your old upgrades won't transfer to, making them obsolete? Is this one of those fucked-up things where I'd want to hoard all my parts until I had all the weapons so I knew which one was my favorite?

All guns in the game measure DPS for you, thankfully.  There are more than enough resources in the game to develop the late-game weapons that are vastly superior to things you get earlier on.  There's two that ignore enemy armor all together and have decent firing rates.  But yes, you pretty much waste development on earlier game weapons.  The only one that remains ALWAYS good is your only melee weapon.
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #624 on: August 18, 2008, 01:41:27 PM »

Number of Target Pistol rounds remaining after killing final boss: 60
# of Shotgun Shells: 45
# of Service Pistol rounds: 75
# of Hunting Rifle bullets: 60
# of Assault Rifle Rounds: 120 (Never fired a single shot)
# of Redeemer Rounds: 24

Number of Katanas left after killing final boss: 2
# of meat gaffs: 2
# of wrenches: 2
# of batons: 3
# of pool cues: 5
# of spears: 2
# of pitchforks: 3
# of drip stands: 3
# of light stands: 2
# of scalpels: 2
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# of filing cabinets: 3
# of alchohol bottles: 4
# of iron weights: 1
# of typewriters: 2
# of shovels: 2
# of other random melee shit I cannot remember off the top of my head: a lot

Number of Herbal Drinks left after defeating final boss: 2
# of medkits: 1
# of ampules: 5

Enemies defeated using firearms: 9
Enemies defeated using melee weapons: 18
Enemies defeated with bare fists: 128

Hello, my name is Friday, and I'm a hoardaholic.

I've been hoarding my ammo, healing items, and melee weapons with durability for the final boss since I was a small girl playing FF4 or whatever.

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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #625 on: August 18, 2008, 01:50:58 PM »

But Friday, what about Elixirs?

THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY CLOCKS IN THE WORLD
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #626 on: August 18, 2008, 10:58:11 PM »

So, would you recommend just using the damn things, rather than resorting to fisticuffs?  I'd gotten to the asylum, and everything in there is a pain to fight.  Especially those invisible bastards in the harnesses.

edit: also the target pistol super sucks
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #627 on: August 19, 2008, 05:02:39 AM »

Melee weapons aren't even that great.  Use them if you really don't want to shoot things.  Or, you could just like, run around the monsters instead of killing everything.
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #628 on: August 19, 2008, 10:29:08 AM »

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So, would you recommend just using the damn things, rather than resorting to fisticuffs?  I'd gotten to the asylum, and everything in there is a pain to fight.  Especially those invisible bastards in the harnesses.

Uh, yes. There are about 50 million melee weapons in the fucking game, so you might as well use them on enemies.

Here's a good basic rule:

Single enemy: use fists, because you can just stunlock them

Two enemies: use melee weapons. You won't be able to knock down the closer one with your fists and step on it before the other closes, but you should be able to do just that with a katana or whatnot

Two enemies, closely clumped: shoot one down, or better yet, avoid them

Three: firearms, then fist the last one

This is the basic strategy I used, except I also just ran around probably 60% of the enemies in the game. Origins made it slightly harder to just run by the bad guys then previous games, so expect to take some damage if you do this a lot. Attacking clumped enemies with anything other than guns is a wonderful way to waste healing items, so avoid this.

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also the target pistol super sucks

Well, uh, what?

I mean, sure, the damage is low, but ammo is plentiful and it's ranged. I used it to pick off one or two members out of packs all the time. You generally have more than enough distance between you and the bad guys to unload two clips before they're on you, and even then, with a little skill you can simply run around them, put your back to the wall, and unload two more clips if needed.

Anyway, not killing monsters is the key to getting the good ending, so try not to be too much of a butcher.

(do u c wat i did thare)
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #629 on: August 19, 2008, 10:31:53 AM »

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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #630 on: August 19, 2008, 10:40:51 AM »

Anyway, not killing monsters is the key to getting the good ending, so try not to be too much of a butcher.

Goddamn it, I always play a monster murdering machine.  This is entirely counter-intuitive to me.  SH4 didn't give me a choice, what with the invincible ghosts and goddamn-it-just-fucking-die-you-hippy endboss chasing you through the end bits.  The Masons and Sutherland destroyed all before them, damn it.
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #631 on: August 19, 2008, 10:46:25 AM »

yeah, I originally tried to kill everything too. it was a pretty big mental block to get over.

and yeah, fuck Walter. At least the ghosts were invincible melee. A relentless pursuer with a fucking gun while you have to wait for a bitch with a broken arm and an IQ that resembles a rock to catch up and stop raping herself and you if you want the good ending argghghghghg.
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #632 on: August 19, 2008, 01:44:19 PM »

So I'm uhhh

I'm playing Lagoon.

Is there a :masochist: emoticon?
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #633 on: August 19, 2008, 03:58:08 PM »

Mabinogi, Etrian Odessy, The World Ends With You, and MASTER OF MOTHER FUCKIN' MAGIC is so far a very nice rotation for rainy days.
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #634 on: August 19, 2008, 05:42:28 PM »

I have to wonder how I somehow missed this game, because it's all sorts of hilariously fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6EKBWVQYRY
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #635 on: August 20, 2008, 04:22:44 PM »

Hastings gave me $80 in Magical Store Funbucks for my Chinese Devil Bibles, so I got GTA4.
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #636 on: August 20, 2008, 05:23:56 PM »

I guess it's that time of year, because I'm playing through neverwinter nights again.
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #637 on: August 20, 2008, 07:22:41 PM »

One of the themes of Cannon Fodder is the futility of war, and the game is a deliberate exercise in seeing how much they can make the player care about each eight pixel high man.

They do this in three main ways. First, every recruit is given a name - not a random name, even; the developers have individually named all four hundred potential recruits. Second, they have a kill count, to remind you how useful they were before you got them killed. Third, each mission phase a soldier survives increases his rank, which improves marksmanship but not toughness.

It also gets difficult fast. This is 1993, when they still made games you weren't expected to beat on your first play-through. Missions after the first few will take several tries, and are guaranteed to wipe out your beloved high-ranking officers. When you complete the mission they scroll a memorial wall listing all the soldiers you lost by name and rank, followed by a list of promotions that remind you what you could have won if you didn't suck so much.
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #638 on: August 21, 2008, 10:13:29 PM »

Hitler's The leader's head explosion is fucking art.


if a CG representation of a head exploding can be considered art that is.
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Re: Babble about a video game you are playing
« Reply #639 on: August 22, 2008, 11:20:13 AM »

Really got to wonder ... when a game has a badly-designed, exploitable element to it, at what point does using it become cheating?

I've been playing Morrowind lately.  Not the first Elder Scrolls I've played, but I couldn't stand more than a little of Oblivion, so it's the first I played to any real extent.  Struggled through a little bit of the main quest on a Sword + Heavy Armor fighter-type, then went off to do sidequests.  Gathered some gear, mostly Dwemer, and picked up Umbra, but on finding interesting sidequests to be few and far between, I went to go do the Tribunal expansion.
This went pretty well up to a point, but when I tried to go clear out the goblin armies ... I ran into trouble.  A goblin would take off about a third of my life, and two together would kill me as often as not.  I was burning through healing potions trying to make any progress, and since I'd made the damn fool mistake of choosing skills I wanted to use as my Major and Minor skills, grinding up my Restoration to be able to heal myself effectively would be counterproductive against leveling enemies.  So I decided to look into crafting.

And pretty much broke the game.

Went and picked up Azura's Star, and using the Daedric Wakazashi the assassin in Tribunal's play sidequest dropped as a nest egg, started buying things.  Bought a couple Summon spells and remade them into farmable versions, and practiced summoning Dremora and Golden Saints until I could semi-reliably snag the equipment off them before they vanished.  Created and sold weapons until I could afford badass enchantments, then made some absurd stuff.

Like, oh, there's no fast travel in the game, and yet the majority of quests are fetch quests a continent away?  No problem, I'll stick Fortify Acrobatics and Jump onto an Ebony Staff, and stick one point of Slowfall on a skirt to eliminate falling damage, now I can essentially Icarian Flight across the Ashlands at leisure.  Don't have time to both heal and fight at the same time?  No problem, I'll stick Absorb Health in a 10' radius on my Daedric Katana, and never have trouble in any fight ever again.  The only time that thing ever let me down, for the entire rest of the game and both expansions, was trying to kill Almalexia in her shrine surrounded by half a dozen High Ordinators, because they'd kill me too fast for my "heal back ~240 HP every time I land a hit" to kick in.  No fight, for the rest of the game, posed any challenge ever, and the only time I ever switched that weapon out was when I couldn't afford to have the AoE hit friendly NPCs.  And a single-target version worked just fine for that.

It seems kind of silly that I can cast a spell to summon a monster, take its weapon, steal its soul, and then use that weapon and soul to make a sword far better than anything the game will ever give me.  And yet, that seems to be their thing.  If I hadn't been going Heavy Armor, and had more carrying capacity to spare, I shudder to think what I could have accomplished stacking constant-effect Sanctuary or Reflect or Restore Health on my gear.  And what I've heard of Alchemy is just terrifying.

So, yeah.  Decent game, heavily flawed but not nearly so much as its successor, but ... jesus fuckshit, when does breaking a game with its built-in systems become just flat-out cheating?
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