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[poopsie]

who the fuck am I?

who the fuck are you

fuck you

you fucking twats

i fucking tried so fucking hard to fucking fit in with this fucking stupid fucking community and you fucking assholes fucking throw it in my fucking face

god damn it and this game is so fucking confusing i don't get it

maybe when i come down tomorrow morning i'll be able tovote but until then i can't fucking think i'm so psised

[Detonator]

I forgot what topic this was and thought Soracross had come back for a second there.

[Kayma]

k

[KYON-KUN, DENWA.]

Yeah this game is pretty much up-fucked.

Nothing for it now but to send it careening over the edge.

HEY LUM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTerxGPtwio

[Frocto]

BAM LUM WAS NOT REALLY A WEREWOLF

BUT BAM SHE WAS

BUT BAM IT WAS REALLY ALL A DREAM

BUT BAM WHEN SHE WOKE UP, A WEREWOLF CAME OUT OF HER SKIN

Lum was the final Werewolf.

Innocents win! Thanks for playing, everyone!

[Brentai]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=envIMunodOI

[jsnlxndrlv]

A valuable lesson for the future, I think.

[yyler]

Anyway I was Bill Murray and Phil Connors and I am pro.

[Kayma]

Oh wow. I thought Bill Murray was Newbie. I was Rain.

[yyler]

I wish I had been a vigilante so I could have just day killed all those wolves.

[jsnlxndrlv]

I kind of wanted to be a vigilante so I could start shooting immediately and only stop once I got converted to the werewolf team or accidentally gave myself the Phil Connors role, which was the one possibility for failure my plan had.

Didn't expect to start out as a wolf. I was considering posting this strategy in the thread, but then THIS happened.

Time for some fun!

It has been two days without activity! Shame on yoooooooouuuuuu.

As punishment, in exactly 24 hours from now, I will execute one of you. One unlucky player who has not yet posted will die by my discretion and we will move on to the night kill. I hold life and death in my VERY FUCKING HANDS.

That player is...

Roll(1d4)+0:
4,+0

Reaverbot

If any single person votes within the next 24 hours, give or take a few hours, Reaverbot's life will be spared and I will go with a majority vote, regardless of size, but if not...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns3M1Sj6x4o

(Since he doesn't check the boards regularly, I'll even drop him a message to let him know what's up)

This is the post where I realized this game was fucked and pretty much quit. Because:

If you have not been informed of your role, you are a Vigilante.

I think I found the culprit.

...combined with the fact that activity in Forum Games isn't even reported in the New Posts box on the front page means hey, way to build a mechanism into the game to show who has special roles and who doesn't.

New rule: if you run a game of werewolf, you have to PM every fucking player before the game starts.

[yyler]

Does seem like the best way to win was to reset the game until you became a wolf. You can't have become Phil Connors.

[Frocto]

This is the post where I realized this game was fucked and pretty much quit. Because:

If you have not been informed of your role, you are a Vigilante.

I think I found the culprit.

...combined with the fact that activity in Forum Games isn't even reported in the New Posts box on the front page means hey, way to build a mechanism into the game to show who has special roles and who doesn't.

I don't get the implication here. Are you saying everyone who posted late were the Vigilantes? Because that wasn't what happened, Brentai posted well before you did.

And also! According to you, killing Phil Connors should have been easy but he finished the game alive. So, yeah, I just wanted to doublecheck that was what you actually meant, because it doesn't make sense.

Anyway, I don't actually mind the game was bumpy, since I was just trying to test my rules out, haha. Better luck next time, right?

[jsnlxndrlv]

By the time you were threatening to kill people, we'd had posts from Lum, Bill Murray, Mikuru, me, and Rain.

People who posted: 2 wolves, Phil Connors, 2 vigilantes.

People who hadn't posted: 1 wolf, 3 vigilantes.

Let's look at alternate accounts:

Brentai: Mikuru
Disposable Ninja: Never made one.
Guild: G, maybe? Or waterglass? Fuck, I don't know. There are more accounts posting here than should be playing.
Kayma: Rain
Kazz: waterglass? The Noid? Who can say.
Laserbeing: Lum
Newbie: EGG SHEN
Reaverbot: Spocktopus, but he posted using his regular account once and was already on his way to being dead
Yyler: Bill Murray

What I'm trying to say here is that, of this list of players, only Brentai, Kayma, LaserBeing, myself, and Yyler were actually playing. Maybe Guild, too. I couldn't tell. It was pretty obvious from the start that anybody who either didn't bother to make an anonymous account or who didn't post until the second day or at all was a wolf. That tied the wolves' hands: they had to kill inactive players first in order to maintain as large a pool of credible threats as possible: The Noid first, then DN.

In order for werewolf to work, the players have to be invested. By default, the way that investment happens is that you're a huge fan of wolf (Brent, Guild) or that you have a special role. If I sign up for a game, I won't necessarily realize it's going to happen right then—some games have a much longer incubation period than others—but I'm at least interested in playing it. On the other hand, finding out that a game I signed up for started without me realizing it, has been going for a while now and has seen people die already is a good way to guarantee I won't care one way or another.

I guess what I'm saying is, it's frustrating to sign up for a game, find out half the players were never notified that the game's starting, and then see the moderator threaten to start mod-killing people for inactivity when barely half the players have checked in.

This was an interesting game idea, though, and I'm glad we got to try it out. I'd be interested in trying out a tweaked version again some time.

[yyler]

Kazz was waterglass and Guild was G/The Noid

[Frocto]

That tied the wolves' hands: they had to kill inactive players first in order to maintain as large a pool of credible threats as possible: The Noid first, then DN.

I don't follow this. If the werewolves had killed the active players and waited for me to modkill inactive ones, they would have had a landslide victory. I was even saying that to Lee-Ham earlier, he was doing the wrong thing by killing people who weren't voting.

[jsnlxndrlv]

That tied the wolves' hands: they had to kill inactive players first in order to maintain as large a pool of credible threats as possible: The Noid first, then DN.

I don't follow this. If the werewolves had killed the active players and waited for me to modkill inactive ones, they would have had a landslide victory. I was even saying that to Lee-Ham earlier, he was doing the wrong thing by killing people who weren't voting.

A victory of the malicious over the inactive isn't really a victory. I don't want to win as much as I want a good game.

[Frocto]

what you want to do is wildly contradict yourself, I guess

Anyway! I don't want to be some nanny to you guys, constantly harassing you to give a shit, especially since like four people were incapable of reading the rules, but hey whatever. Brentai and yyler think I did a fantastic job of putting up with bullshit, and it is not my job to motivate people like Mr. "I Haven't Even Read The Rules LOLOLOLOL!" to care, BUT

Sure, if I ever run Werewolf again, I will send everyone an introductory PM. I would hazard a wild guess it will change exactly jack shit, since I am sure somewhere on the internet people have run Werewolf games on forums that didn't have introductory slaps on the ass to get started and they went fine, but if it comes to that I will stock up on funny insults to call you. I could direct a lot of blame at a lot of people for this game not being the best, too, but I had fun, so I don't need to?

And the other thing is that I just wanted to get through the game and test my rules out. You're acting like, what, my Werewolf game has to be super awesome fun, which I certainly never promised! When I realized

this game was fucked

I could have

pretty much quit.

like a big baby but I just saw it through and had fun with it and so did everyone else.

You big baby.

[the asshole you hate]

yay

[Kazz]

i apologize for not playing this

but i told frocto like 3 times that i couldn't sign up a second anon account because i don't have that many e-mail addresses