Topic: Champions of the HERO System (Read 3921 times)

Doom · « **Reply #20 on:** August 17, 2009, 11:45:44 AM »

Tell me if the classes are individually viable or if you're expected to roll a Tank or a Scrapper if you want to solo anything at a decent speed.

TA · « **Reply #21 on:** August 17, 2009, 11:48:37 AM »

Quote from: Doom on August 17, 2009, 11:45:44 AM

Tell me if the classes are individually viable or if you're expected to roll a Tank or a Scrapper if you want to solo anything at a decent speed.

There aren't really "Classes". Anyone can take any power from any framework, and powers just come faster if you invest power choices in that framework. Like, tier 3 powers require 5 powers of that framework, or 8 powers total.

If you want to solo anything at a decent speed, you need either Invulnerable, from the Power Armor framework, or Regeneration, from the Supernatural framework. Because you will be fucked to death.

Doom · « **Reply #22 on:** August 17, 2009, 12:15:06 PM »

Like Invulnerability Tankers or Regeneration Scrappers, right.

Call me when Statesman retires.

Norondor · « **Reply #23 on:** August 17, 2009, 02:33:34 PM »

so how can i actually get in

TA · « **Reply #24 on:** August 17, 2009, 02:53:07 PM »

There's a bunch of ways. This one was working earlier, might still be.

Norondor · « **Reply #25 on:** August 17, 2009, 02:57:34 PM »

i already did it! by pretending to be candian i have succeeded in all things.

Norondor · « **Reply #26 on:** August 17, 2009, 06:58:35 PM »

Actually after reading this i am kind of reconsidering downloading the game.

Dooly · « **Reply #27 on:** August 17, 2009, 07:08:46 PM »

The signup page for an account for this game has a field for "Display Name." Will this be the title of the only character you get to create?

Norondor · « **Reply #28 on:** August 17, 2009, 07:47:26 PM »

probably for the forum

Doom · « **Reply #29 on:** August 17, 2009, 08:02:44 PM »

So they're re-releasing City of Heroes with a new license, decade old flaws and all.

Thank you, informative blog review and Norondor.

TA · « **Reply #30 on:** August 17, 2009, 09:07:38 PM »

Quote from: Dooly on August 17, 2009, 07:08:46 PM

The signup page for an account for this game has a field for "Display Name." Will this be the title of the only character you get to create?

It's the forums, but it's also in-game. See, there's only one game server and will only ever be one game server, so rather than restricting that there only be, like, one Doctor Fuck, what they do is tie it to your account name. So everybody can have a Doctor Fuck, and just whenever you speak in any channel, it'll show up as "Doctor Fuck@Dooly" or "Doctor Fuck@TA" or such. And that's the name, with the @, that you need if you're going to, like, do team invites or /tells through the text interface.

Dooly · « **Reply #31 on:** August 18, 2009, 01:56:40 AM »

Great, I can't make Mob Informant in this game. I gotta rethink this whole fucking thing.

TA · « **Reply #32 on:** August 19, 2009, 08:34:49 PM »

Quote from: One of the Devs

I was reading a post earlier where someone was concerned about FotM builds, and it got my head grinding into motion. I have been thinking of a plan to help alleviate this.

The goal isn't to cripple those who pick FotM builds though, just to diminish them enough while they are together so that they don't top the charts; to make FotMs slightly less attractive and encourage people to diversify. People will still FotM, can't be stopped. But rather than game mechanics trying to enforce balance, use the competitive nature of the power-gamers themselves as a social control against a single dominant power combination.

Example:

Player A, Player B, and Player C all get into a party with the latest FotM build. Together they tackle a spawn of NPC opponents.

Player A uses an alpha strike right off the bat; Power X on NPC_1.
Player B uses the energy builder from that same frame; Power Y on NPC_2.
Player C uses a power from a different frame on the next guy; Power Z on NPC_3.

So far, everything is fine, and no one has any disadvantages.

Player A is out of energy, and build on the next mob; Power Y on NPC_4. He gets a debuff called "Cramping my Style" (because that power has already been used against a member of this spawn set) and against the remaining mobs in this spawn set is at -1 star effectiveness.
Player B is full on energy and uses the same Alpha Player A used earlier to finish his mob; Power X on NPC_2. Now both Player A and Player B are affected with "Cramping my Style", and each have 2 star penalty for the duration of the combat against that spawn set.
Player C is smarter than the other two, and uses some other power against the last guy; Power W on NPC_4. This player still has no penalties.

Because why try to balance FotM builds, when you can make them pariahs instead?

Doom · « **Reply #33 on:** August 19, 2009, 08:52:51 PM »

I like the implication that you can only group with people with wildly different power-sets.

LF3M Clockwork King FULL ON CLAW SCRAPPERS

Norondor · « **Reply #34 on:** August 19, 2009, 08:55:49 PM »

durr

my first character, a toad-headed guy with huge muscles and brass knuckles, named "The Battle-Toad" ended up spawning in the world with no powers or abilities! When i contacted a GM, they said i would have to completely remake my character because it couldn't be fixed. Launch is in a week right? Pretty good sign...

On the other hand, i've had a lot of fun with the next character, "The Guardian Legend," a powerarmor flying robot girl.

Dooly · « **Reply #35 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:46:18 AM »

This game runs like crap on my computer, and I certainly don't plan on paying for it after the beta, but I just got inspired to make Liefeld Man in the character creator.

Norondor · « **Reply #36 on:** August 24, 2009, 05:11:30 AM »

You've made a terrible mistake, Dooly.

He shouldn't have feet.

TA · « **Reply #37 on:** August 24, 2009, 08:48:16 AM »

Today is the last day of open beta. Game launches in a week.

Yesterday, they slashed XP gain to a third. Their stated reasons for doing this are demonstrably lies.

Cthulhu-chan · « **Reply #38 on:** August 24, 2009, 11:38:56 AM »

Other than, "it's no longer beta", what would they say?

Shinra · « **Reply #39 on:** August 24, 2009, 11:53:04 AM »

I find it funny that people actually believed that Statesman wasn't the primary problem with city of heroes.

This is the same guy responsible for enhancement diversification, AOE power deminishment, and nerfing 'flavor of the month' builds so badly it actually destroys the viability of the build altogether. Going into champions and playing a character build that other people seem to like? Hope you enjoy having all of your hard work invalidated during the next patch cycle!

CoH got into the sad state it's in now because of all the people quitting in droves every time a new patch came in and nerfed all their characters. There's two approaches to balance, and I think it's been proven time and time again that 'world destroying nerfs' is the wrong way to go about things. Considering that this game isn't out of beta and they're already going down that road, anyone signing up for this is in for a fun ride that I'm not planning to go on.

News:

Author Topic: Champions of the HERO System (Read 3921 times)