Topic: Applepocalypse (Read 45093 times)

Brentai · « **Reply #260 on:** June 07, 2010, 08:06:12 PM »

Quote from: Thad on June 07, 2010, 07:58:58 PM

Quote from: Mongrel on June 07, 2010, 07:41:20 PM
Did Google just win the mobile wars?

Worked for HD-DVD!

Yeah, then Sony changed its mind.

I totally expect Apple to do the same.

TA · « **Reply #261 on:** June 08, 2010, 04:21:45 PM »

So, back when iAd - the whole "popup ads baked directly into the OS that freeze your phone until you look at them" thing - when that first showed its face during the announcement of iPhone OS 4, it was pointed out that language in the developer agreement barred the collection of data by advertising agencies. This would include, say, "How many people saw my ad?" or "How long did they look at it?" or "How many people opened the page the ad links to?" or such things. You know, the sort of data collection that is absolutely necessary for it to even be possible to compensate someone for running your ads.

Well, Apple's changed the developer agreement. Now, you're allowed to do that. HOWEVER, you are only allowed to do that if you are "an independent advertising service provider whose primary business is serving mobile ads". The agreement goes on to say that "an advertising service provider owned by or affiliated with a developer or distributor of mobile devices, mobile operating systems or development environments other than Apple would not qualify as independent". Which is essentially Google, Google, and Adobe, respectively.

There are antitrust laws against saying "You can't do this if you're Google" in that sort of agreement. I have little expectation that what is essentially "You can't do this if your name has an 'oog' in the middle of it" will stand up to the inevitable lawsuit, and this certainly won't help Apple with the antitrust probes they're already facing.

A² · « **Reply #262 on:** June 09, 2010, 11:53:43 PM »

A "security firm" called Goatse Security gets the emails, and potentially access to a lot more, of every iPad buyer. And handed out the code on how they got this before ATT closed the hole

If this page isn't filled with ass & poop jokes I will be very disappointed in what I've come to expect from these boards.

Cthulhu-chan · « **Reply #263 on:** June 10, 2010, 02:29:13 AM »

That's far too easy a target, and it's not even a real company. Boo.

vv I stand corrected.

Mongrel · « **Reply #264 on:** June 10, 2010, 03:09:56 AM »

The two things I did NOT expect to read in that article were the fact that a: They did it entirely using publicly available data (Haha, oh AT&T), and b: that's actually a legitimate security company.

Of course I really shouldn't be surprised at the former.

TA · « **Reply #265 on:** June 10, 2010, 09:12:10 AM »

Quote from: TA on June 08, 2010, 04:21:45 PM

So, back when iAd - the whole "popup ads baked directly into the OS that freeze your phone until you look at them" thing - when that first showed its face during the announcement of iPhone OS 4, it was pointed out that language in the developer agreement barred the collection of data by advertising agencies. This would include, say, "How many people saw my ad?" or "How long did they look at it?" or "How many people opened the page the ad links to?" or such things. You know, the sort of data collection that is absolutely necessary for it to even be possible to compensate someone for running your ads.

Well, Apple's changed the developer agreement. Now, you're allowed to do that. HOWEVER, you are only allowed to do that if you are "an independent advertising service provider whose primary business is serving mobile ads". The agreement goes on to say that "an advertising service provider owned by or affiliated with a developer or distributor of mobile devices, mobile operating systems or development environments other than Apple would not qualify as independent". Which is essentially Google, Google, and Adobe, respectively.

There are antitrust laws against saying "You can't do this if you're Google" in that sort of agreement. I have little expectation that what is essentially "You can't do this if your name has an 'oog' in the middle of it" will stand up to the inevitable lawsuit, and this certainly won't help Apple with the antitrust probes they're already facing.

And all of two days later ...

Thad · « **Reply #266 on:** June 10, 2010, 09:04:20 PM »

BTW:

Quote from: Thad on April 21, 2010, 04:57:26 PM

Quote from: Shinra on April 20, 2010, 08:11:23 PM
Yeah, unless the iPhone 4 comes with an announcement of WiMax/4g support, I'm not going to be impressed with anything that takes extra bandwidth.

Well, seeing as how the Gizmodo story we are currently talking about specifically refers to it as the iPhone 4G...

Oh hey, just read today that it's not actually 4G. Sorry about the smugness there; I am forced to eat some crow on this one.

TA · « **Reply #267 on:** June 23, 2010, 04:43:27 PM »

Due to design defect, iPhone 4 predictably loses reception if you hold it with your bare hand.

Edit: While it seems obvious that this would come up immediately given any kind of testing, I've seen it put forth that maybe because all the field testing was done with the phone in a dummy 3GS case, the problem wouldn't have been apparent during that. Which is hilarious.

McDohl · « **Reply #268 on:** June 24, 2010, 08:43:00 AM »

Dear Apple,

Can I PLEASE change my fucking e-mail/text message notification beeps to something other than your canned bullshit?

Love,
Dohl

Brentai · « **Reply #269 on:** July 02, 2010, 02:35:40 PM »

So apparently even when you DO have five bars on an iPhone, you don't have five bars. Huh.

What's more amusing to me is that Android and Blackberry phones have a feature that will tell you the exact signal strength rather than giving you a roundabout bar thing (mine is -100dB at the moment, which is actually kind of shit, but you can barely notice). The funny part is iPhone used to have this too.

...yeah.

TA · « **Reply #270 on:** July 02, 2010, 02:51:23 PM »

That's what they're claiming, anyway. That when 3G suddenly stops working and people drop their calls just by shifting their grip on the phone, it's a mere display error, to be fixed in an OS update.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #271 on:** July 02, 2010, 02:54:12 PM »

To be fair, my iPhone does that without the benefit of being the iPhone 4.

TA · « **Reply #272 on:** July 02, 2010, 02:59:08 PM »

Quote from: Brentai on July 02, 2010, 02:35:40 PM

What's more amusing to me is that Android and Blackberry phones have a feature that will tell you the exact signal strength rather than giving you a roundabout bar thing (mine is -100dB at the moment, which is actually kind of shit, but you can barely notice). The funny part is iPhone used to have this too.

Is there an easy way for Android to display that in the top bar, as opposed to it being buried in the Phone Info in Settings?

Brentai · « **Reply #273 on:** July 02, 2010, 03:12:41 PM »

That's probably dependant on your UI skin. What phone are you using?

TA · « **Reply #274 on:** July 02, 2010, 03:15:53 PM »

Still a G1, running stock 1.6.

Thad · « **Reply #275 on:** July 03, 2010, 08:58:42 PM »

Quote from: TA on July 02, 2010, 02:51:23 PM

That's what they're claiming, anyway. That when 3G suddenly stops working and people drop their calls just by shifting their grip on the phone, it's a mere display error, to be fixed in an OS update.

And also the problem has existed since the original iPhone and nobody noticed until now.

TA · « **Reply #276 on:** July 03, 2010, 09:53:34 PM »

Here's the thing. I believe that Apple has programmed the iPhone OS since day one to lie to its users about signal strength, calculating bars to greatly exaggerate how much signal they get. That's really par for the course. Suggesting that that lie (which has been present since the original iPhone), plus what they're claiming causes a loss of signal on every cell phone out there (including the original iPhone, 3G, and 3GS), is the reason people are going from 5 bars to no service on the iPhone 4? That is just a lie. A flat-out lie. Apple is demonstrably lying to its customers about why their products do not work.

Brentai · « **Reply #277 on:** July 16, 2010, 08:31:26 PM »

Quote

Mr. Jobs offered some contrition. He said Apple was not perfect and apologized to customers affected by the antenna problem. “We are human and we make mistakes sometimes,” he said.

But he quickly went on the offensive, saying every smartphone suffers from similar problems. To bolster his case, he showed videos of smartphones, including a BlackBerry, an Android-powered phone and a Windows Mobile device, that dropped signals when they were held in certain places.

When a reporter said he could not replicate the signal drop on his BlackBerry, Mr. Jobs said the problem was only evident in places where the signal is weak.

"Just trust our prerecorded video, IT'S PROOF."

I have two bars right now. I'm watching the video of how to hold a Blackberry. I'm doing it exactly the awkward way they have it. Oh look, two bars.

I really want to ignore this jackass and move on but I'm kind of sensitive to people who think good business is telling god damned lies about the competition.

Dooly · « **Reply #278 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:43:03 AM »

Works pretty well for politicians.

Mongrel · « **Reply #279 on:** August 03, 2010, 02:50:18 PM »

I love the contrasting articles today.

For those of you not following along at home, Blackberry is about to get kicked out of Saudi Arabia because they're - get this - too secure for the government to spy on users. Meanwhile, in Apple-land, the iPad and iPhone are 100% zombie compliant.

News:

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