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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #160 on: August 19, 2010, 07:55:06 PM »

Especially since all of those initials are the same four letters, right?


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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #161 on: August 19, 2010, 08:21:21 PM »

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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #162 on: August 19, 2010, 10:09:37 PM »

I'm caught up I think

I'm... having a hard time processing everything happening in Troll arc here. It's like I've got this bubble of characters that I'm invested in and can care about, and these two fish characters? They're not in it.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #163 on: August 19, 2010, 10:21:05 PM »

Give 'em time. Once they've had more interactions with the other ten, and are appropriately enmeshed in the web that makes up this troll disease called friendship, they'll be as interesting as anybody else.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #164 on: August 20, 2010, 03:44:11 AM »

Honestly, the only troll I don't like to see is Karkat, and that's mostly just because he's the one who caused the most time to be diverted from watching the kids do cool things to watching the kids get in pointless arguments with an unpleasant and unhelpful outsider.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #165 on: August 20, 2010, 03:49:44 AM »

...Fucking Gamzee...
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #166 on: August 20, 2010, 05:47:27 AM »

Honestly, the only troll I don't like to see is Karkat, and that's mostly just because he's the one who caused the most time to be diverted from watching the kids do cool things to watching the kids get in pointless arguments with an unpleasant and unhelpful outsider.

But Karkat is the best troll!  Well, the best male troll.  Karkat's pretty damn awesome, let's just put it at that.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #167 on: August 20, 2010, 08:23:34 AM »

I just haven't gotten over all those times when John and Rose had just entered the Medium and everything's new and exciting, but then an update would appear and OH LOOK IT'S CG AGAIN HERE TO CONTINUE BEING ANGRY AND VAGUE.

Now that he's a character instead of a tedious plot device, and also now that eleven even less legible characters have been introduced, I have no good reason not to warm up to him.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #168 on: August 20, 2010, 11:19:06 AM »

Okay, so I've been reading this hipster crap and if anyone wants to take a stab at explaining a plot-point to me, that'd be great.

How come John never tried to sway Spades Slick over to their side like Karkat did? Or how did Karkat even figure out to try to? It just seems awfully fortuitous for the trolls that things panned out that way.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #169 on: August 20, 2010, 11:32:34 AM »

You say that as if having Slick on your team is a good thing.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #170 on: August 20, 2010, 11:33:35 AM »

HONK!
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #171 on: August 20, 2010, 12:07:07 PM »

Okay, so I've been reading this hipster crap and if anyone wants to take a stab at explaining a plot-point to me, that'd be great.

How come John never tried to sway Spades Slick over to their side like Karkat did? Or how did Karkat even figure out to try to? It just seems awfully fortuitous for the trolls that things panned out that way.

We don't know for sure. As Karkat explains in this conversation, it's not yet clear what the original divergence was that switched Jack Noir from being one of the exiles into being the final boss, but at some point there will probably be some weird time-travel shit that explains it.

If there's anything we know about Jack, it's that he resents the royalty and frivolous nonsense. In both games, he turned against the black queen. In the Trolls' game, he ran into Karkat long before his plans had come to fruition, while in the kids' game, he'd only met Dad before the ridiculous progression of prototypings forced his hand and made him kill the Black Queen with the bunny's final form, launching him on his rise to power.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #172 on: August 20, 2010, 12:46:20 PM »

How come John never tried to sway Spades Slick over to their side like Karkat did? Or how did Karkat even figure out to try to? It just seems awfully fortuitous for the trolls that things panned out that way.

It wasn't fortuitous. It was Aradia -- the dead Aries girl. She fused her Sprite with a Frog statue, which in turn caused the Black Queen to take on frog-like qualities. The Black Queen, who despises all things amphibian-like and found the form insulting, removed the ring that gave her all of her powers (and her chimera-esque form), and locked it up in a vault.

Jack Noir/Spades Slick, who wished to overthrow the royalty and take the ring of power for himself, contacted Karkat and together formulated a plan to break into the vault and steal the ring. At the end of the Troll's game, he apparently ended up as one of the Exiles.

Meanwhile, by the time John had even heard of Jack Noir, Noir had long-since exploded the Black Queen, taken her power ring, and was on his way to wrinklefuck all of Skaia.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #173 on: August 20, 2010, 04:35:23 PM »

Turns out the lynchpin was Jade's gift, which happened to contain the four ultimate weapons in bunny size. One of which is a sword called Royal Deringer.

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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #174 on: August 20, 2010, 04:59:12 PM »

...the "it was a regisword" answer was both simpler and actually made sense, but nooo.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #175 on: August 20, 2010, 08:53:46 PM »

You can't have a regicide without a few causality raping paradoxes, come on now!
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #176 on: August 21, 2010, 12:37:18 AM »

Oh, I thought he was going to be cloned via time bullshit.

Always have to go for the thing that makes the least sense.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #177 on: August 21, 2010, 05:50:48 AM »

I dunno, that was pretty much what I was expecting.  Also, one more death to go.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #178 on: August 21, 2010, 05:43:17 PM »

Apparently Vriska and Gamzee both tried to contact Jade at some point.

If nothing else it assures their survival up to the point of contact.  Which is odd because it seemed to be strongly hinted that Vriska was going to blow up somehow.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #179 on: August 21, 2010, 09:10:43 PM »

My head hurts again

Okay, so, the whole... midnight crew arc, that apparently happened... after the troll game ended. I mean, I guess that makes sense in hindsight, but up until now I had always assumed that the Black Queen enlisted Spades Slick after the Midnight Crew and

I'm trying to put the timeline together in my head, and... that's

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